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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well well... someones very jittery at the prospect of a left wing govt, they're even attempting to suggest he's too old for the job as if the lobster ripping cigar smoking brandy guzzling stuffed shirts would be any fitter.

What have the right wing and the 'centre' done other than outsource the country into the floor? Time for a new way.

And as for the 'hang the tories' banner that is constantly referenced as a a slight to the left for some reason there is not one scrap of evidence that suggests that that was anything to do with Labour or any Labour affiliates or members so why is it toted as such?
It's a prime example of a tabloidesque demonisation that has no basis in fact but is used to discredit 'the left'... even though when referred to previously I personally stated on hereI did not agree with such language.

Renationalisation is common sense and as it happens the only option as far as I can see, unless we want more foreign investment in our public services and infrastructure... If someone could explain how a sovereign country that is effectively run remotely from another works? Because to me that would be the last thing that anyone who voted brexit wanted! We want to govern our own affairs don't we?... Well, do it then! run our own hospitals, trains, construction and whatever else carrillion has ( govt approved) messed up.

Say whatever you like about the left it is all at this stage scaremongering to maintain the right wing status quo which is about as dire as it gets so I say it's time for another way, take for example the collapse of carriolion were provisions put in place for the pensions of the workforce?... no they were however for the bonuses of the major stakeholders, why? And why is that just taken as acceptable and not causing a national outcry?...
Because in some warped way it's seen as right, it can be done and so it must be right... but it isn't right it's totally corrupt and wrong and our government is to blame here and yet again all we see in the media is LOOK OVER THERE! LOOK WHAT THE LEFTIES ARE DOING NOW! OOOOOOH, THEY'RE TERRIBLE!
It's a smokescreen and in the same old tunnel vision fashion many just can't see the bigger picture here.

Try not to focus to intently on the 'what if's' and look at what is happening right here and right now and ask yourself if it's what you want for your country. If the answer is no then there's an alternative.

Corbyn has the backing of banks, business, he wants brexit but on the social side he wants people to maintain the rights and protections they enjoy today, a decent wage, housing, effective schooling, fair taxes, and access to higher education for all... Who doesn't want that?

All right, keep your hair on. Of course everyone wants that but people disagree on who is best placed to provide that in the future and clearly many don't have much faith in Corbyn to do that. He talks the talk, but whether he can walk the walk or not is questionable. He also has a dodgy history and some very extreme left-wing views which do not sit well again with many people.

It is not as black and white as you make out and is not just about providing for those with less. There are many aspects of politics to think about including as to which party won't completely devastate our futures, increase public debt and damage the long-term economy, not just the short-term. Labour have no better a history than the Tories in many respects so stop implying the man has no faults and is some kind of second-coming - to believe that really is a mental illness.