[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yes, I'd say separating children from their parents and putting them in confinement does count as child abuse and luckily, there's a **** ton of experts that would agree with me and no amount of trying to blame the parents will change the fact thatit was the US government doing this to children.

No amount of spin will take focus away from the fact that you are basically supporting child abuse as a deterrent to illegal immigration.

It will be forgotten about in a few years, and if it helps the suffering of smuggled children in the long run then imo its a very small price to pay.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It will be forgotten about in a few years, and if it helps the suffering of smuggled children in the long run then imo its a very small price to pay.

So abuse is okay as long as it's forgotten?

Why are you trying to make out that this is about smuggling? It's not going to fly or justify why over two thousand children in a matter of months have been subjected to this child abuse. It's a false motivation and one that's used to justify child abuse.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So abuse is okay as long as it's forgotten?

Why are you trying to make out that this is about smuggling? It's not going to fly or justify why over two thousand children in a matter of months have been subjected to this child abuse. It's a false motivation and one that's used to justify child abuse.

The only thing this is about is criminals being foolish or uncaring enough that they will risk the well being of their or someone elses kids.

You can blame trump all you want...im fed up arguing the toss about it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The only thing this is about is criminals being foolish or uncaring enough that they will risk the well being of their or someone elses kids.

You can blame trump all you want...im fed up arguing the toss about it.

You do realise that people don't decide to trek 1000 miles across the Americas for ****s and giggles? These folks are seeking asylum. These aren't criminals, they're fleeing cartels and regimes.

It's complete BS.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You do realise that people don't decide to trek 1000 miles across the Americas for ****s and giggles? These folks are seeking asylum. These aren't criminals, they're fleeing cartels and regimes.

It's complete BS.

They are
as the entered the USA without going through the
official border.
They broke in , that makes them criminals
under current USA laws.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You do realise that people don't decide to trek 1000 miles across the Americas for ****s and giggles? These folks are seeking asylum. These aren't criminals, they're fleeing cartels and regimes.

It's complete BS.

Sounds like they'd have a legitimate claim to go through the official channels, then.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So abuse is okay as long as it's forgotten?

Why are you trying to make out that this is about smuggling? It's not going to fly or justify why over two thousand children in a matter of months have been subjected to this child abuse. It's a false motivation and one that's used to justify child abuse.

Maybe the parents should think of that before trying to gain illegal entry into another country. Blame everyone else - but not the parents for their own irresponsible actions. It isn't child abuse on behalf of the authorities and the use of such terminology is simply emotive for effect. America has a right to protect its borders as does any other country.

[montblanc]

i can't believe people are defending this child abuse

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

America has a right to protect its borders as does any other country.

Locking kids up and leaving them sleeping on the floor is protecting their borders?

Yeah, ok.

[The Slim Reaper]

https://twitter.com/reveal/status/1009479961059647488

Immigrant children have been forcibly injected with powerful psychiatric drugs at one of the U.S. gov't shelters, Shiloh Treatment Center outside of Houston, according to court documents and interviews.

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immi...awsuit-claims/

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

https://twitter.com/reveal/status/1009479961059647488

Immigrant children have been forcibly injected with powerful psychiatric drugs at one of the U.S. gov't shelters, Shiloh Treatment Center outside of Houston, according to court documents and interviews.

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/immi...awsuit-claims/

Thats as unsubstantial as my obama paedo post.....i like your style.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Thats as unsubstantial as my obama paedo post.....i like your style.

How? It's been filed in court documents. You seriously think people are intentionally perjuring themselves to score points against trump?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The only thing this is about is criminals being foolish or uncaring enough that they will risk the well being of their or someone elses kids.

You can blame trump all you want...im fed up arguing the toss about it.

I will blame Trump because it's his administration that is responsible for state sponsored child abuse.

Try this thing called empathy, try putting yourself in the shoes of someone so desperate to enter a country that they'd do it illegally. These kinds of people rarely think 'Oh wow, let's go pillage the US' benefits system and it's totally bitchin' insurance based health system that would screw us over for generations just because I can't be bothered to find a job in Mexico'

No, people don't take risks like that unless they are desperate. To blame parents for their children being taken from them and mentally and emotionally abused doesn't fly.

You are either against this abhorrent practice or you are for it, no grey areas, no victim blaming, no blaming a previous administration. It's a black or white issue. You either think this is perfectly acceptable or you don't.

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Maybe the parents should think of that before trying to gain illegal entry into another country. Blame everyone else - but not the parents for their own irresponsible actions. It isn't child abuse on behalf of the authorities and the use of such terminology is simply emotive for effect. America has a right to protect its borders as does any other country.

So you're supporting state sponsored child abuse because they are immigrants, okay.