[reece(:]

Ms Trumpette snapped?

[Marsh.]

As if she doesn't wear things for attention?

[montblanc]

i hope that elephant knocks into her again

[reece(:]

Screaming at her saying it, in that outfit

[Marsh.]

Dressed like fookin' Howard Carter or summat?? Or Poirot?

[Tom4784]

It would be a fair statement if she hadn't worn clothes before that sent out obvious statements in the past (when she wore that coat with the dismissive slogan whilst visiting the children in the immigration camps for example).

When you set a precedent like that, you can't begrudge people for holding you to it.

[Livia]

Then maybe wear a plain suit and shirt instead of attention-grabbing outfits.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It would be a fair statement if she hadn't worn clothes before that sent out obvious statements in the past (when she wore that coat with the dismissive slogan whilst visiting the children in the immigration camps for example).

When you set a precedent like that, you can't begrudge people for holding you to it.

I was coming in to say this

[reece(:]

Latest: "I'm the most bullied person in the world"

Chileee

[Tom4784]

Let's focus on what she does, shall we?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-1...dence/10364108

The bitch is cancelled. I used to lowkey stan her playing the long game of waiting for Trump to finally die to get her hands on a big pay day but she's repulsive.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Let's focus on what she does, shall we?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-1...dence/10364108

The bitch is cancelled. I used to lowkey stan her playing the long game of waiting for Trump to finally die to get her hands on a big pay day but she's repulsive.

"Repulsive" is a bit strong, especially as the article opens with US First Lady Melania Trump says women who make accusations of sexual abuse "need to be heard" and supported.

She also said: "I do stand with women, but we need to show the evidence. You cannot just say to somebody, 'I was sexually assaulted,' or, 'You did that to me,' because sometimes the media goes too far, and the way they portray some stories it's, it's not correct, it's not right."

Which part of that is "repulsive"? Of course someone shouldn't be automatically seen as guilty when there's no evidence, and certain accusations shouldn't be made public until the accused is found guilty. Sometimes the media does go far.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

"Repulsive" is a bit strong, especially as the article opens with US First Lady Melania Trump says women who make accusations of sexual abuse "need to be heard" and supported.

She also said: "I do stand with women, but we need to show the evidence. You cannot just say to somebody, 'I was sexually assaulted,' or, 'You did that to me,' because sometimes the media goes too far, and the way they portray some stories it's, it's not correct, it's not right."

Which part of that is "repulsive"? Of course someone shouldn't be automatically seen as guilty when there's no evidence, and certain accusations shouldn't be made public until the accused is found guilty. Sometimes the media does go far.

What she starts off with contradicts what she ended on though which makes her opening statement a meaningless platitude.

There's not always evidence of rape, so by saying that basically people shouldn't speak up if they can't prove it is the same as saying they should suffer in silence. It doesn't benefit the victims, it only serves to protect the abusers from allegations.

Never mind that all this is completely hypocritical from the Trump camp considering they were happy to use the media to crucify the Clintons over similar allegations during the elections. She also can't make out she's sympathetic to the victims when she condones her husband making fun of Blasey Ford by remaining silent.

Justice fails often when it comes to rape, conviction rates are low and that's not because there's a lot of wrongful allegations going around, it's because the system benefits the attacker more often than not and expecting victims to suffer in silence not only denies them justice but allows rapists and abusers to pray on other victims without consequence.

What she said was disgusting and repulsive.

[Tom4784]

Plus physical evidence in a rape/sexual abuse trial doesn't tend to help unless it's evidence that it was a violent rape. All DNA evidence can really prove if someone is drunk or too scared to fight back in the moment is that intercourse occurred, it doesn't do much to prove or disprove that consent was given which benefits the abuser more.

Rape convictions are low for a reason and it's not because most allegations are false.

[Tom4784]

Also testimony IS evidence.

[Maru]

What the media does and what the courts do are usually two very different things. I think most people who are talking about "the case" of Ford are talking about the hyper-sensationalized version that is circulating the media, not so much what happens in the courts, between lawyers and during other proceedings. Even the Democrats acknowledged the FBI investigation was not really an investigation, but a simple background check during the Senate hearing. Most media ignored that admission, as did politicians, when it became clear that they had an investigation on their hands to politicize. That hyper-sensationalism/politicization has caught our culture off guard, even for as politically aware as our culture already is. For example, it has quite literally made some people's careers (made them very famous and/our rich), destroyed numerous others and has put the spotlight on social media for example in terms of whether it should be regulated, other privacy issues and so on.. but I do think that all that has even started to plateau to some degree...

That said, the trend seems to be let's scream and rage when a situation does not go our certain way. I think that too will pass. Right now it's really lucrative to behave that way. I do agree with Melania to an extent, though I do wonder if her worry is more maternal. I think more and more women do worry actually, now not just about their daughters, but their sons as well. In the US particularly, the higher someone is in the income bracket, the more there is a culture of helicopter parenting that has become prevalent... so there is that as well influencing that...

Speaking of the ramifications of false claims:

Two Students Hooked Up. It Was Clearly Consensual. He Still Spent $12,000 Defending Himself.
https://reason.com/blog/2018/10/09/u...oo-sex-hook-up

On the bright side, waiting until marriage to engage in sex looks more and more appealing doesn't it?... on the other hand, the birthrate...

U.S. birth rate plummets to lowest point in 30 years
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...nts/618422002/

[Tom4784]

The media argument is just a method of scapegoating that's been dominant in Trump's administration. Why take responsibility for anything when you can just blame the media?

Either way, the end goal is the same, to silence and take power from victims.

Highlighting examples of false claims mean very little when it's like 2-6% of claims are false, that's a tiny number and stories that make out that it's common place only makes it so that more suspicion falls in the victims when they are all too often blamed for crimes committed against them.