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Old 09-11-2018, 09:53 PM #1
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I don't think it's fair to say Black people think it's ok to do that, I'm sure there are many many black people who don't think it's ok. But it surely is a cultural practise which is why I was saying earlier it should be ok to challenge cultural practises that are cruel and unnecessary. Equally a lot of white people also think it's ok to use hitting as a discipline, it's not a black/white thing


After looking at the demographic of countries practicing female circumcision, and the numbers who have suffered from it. I think it would be unfair to say anything other than black people are ok with it.
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I'm shocked at some of the comments on the site of the article. I'm sure it was edited and I am sure that the teenager was being arrogant and an idiot but how is it ever acceptable for a grown man who should be acting as role model to use violence against someone (especially a child). Whether the teenager deserved it or not is irrelevant tbh. I'm not sure if he threatened the teen at the start of the video but also calling him "Fat boy" is pathetic.
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The thing is if family does it, we know where they are coming from. With a stranger, it's going to be more dependent on cultural consensus. Well society is leaning a fair distance towards "empathy", which tends to be only a tinge stronger than apathy, but not a whole lot of love. My family and even our neighbors would not have me grow up in public not knowing any better, so it was sorted then. If corporal helps, they used it. That's love. It is probably better he learned a lesson @ 15 not to dick with authority, but instead society teaches kids now if they play the system a certain way, then they are the authority... btw this is exactly what most of our inmates here have fully ingrained almost regurgitatingly. So there is a bit more to that then particular parenting strategies, which I'll get into...

Also I don't think it is simply down to what method is best to parent (spoiler: There is no one-size-fits-all). It used to be the village had more of a hand in the raising of a kid as well. We don't have that element instilled in Western culture anymore. Unless we are lucky to live inside a like-minded community. The immediate family no longer extends beyond our property. Not when Americans sue for evert mishap or ppl call the police for every greivance. Which btw is how we end up with police brutality and a police state. When we give them the jurisdiction to do whatever is necessary to clean up the community, give it time... They are meant to provide security in emergencies, but increasingly they are being used as society's whipping cord. They're happy with that policy as long as they themselves don't suffer any discomfort or pained deference.
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"Ooh, kids would be so much better behaved these days with a little domestic violence"

Ok.

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We are a long way off the original thread.
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We are a long way off the original thread.

Yes miles off topic.
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We are a long way off the original thread.
Idc, this is good discussion. But mods could always split into a new thread.
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