[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Objection... supposition.

Isn't it all.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Isn't it all.

Abso-bloody-lutely.

The man's dead. When he was alive they were happy with their non disclosure payments of million and millions of dollars. Now he's dead they're back for more. How I see it in a nutshell.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

When he was alive they were happy with their non disclosure payments of million and millions of dollars. Now he's dead they're back for more. How I see it in a nutshell.

It was Jordan Chandler who took a non-disclosure payment of millions and he is not involved with this documentary. Neither of the men involved in this documentary received any non-disclosure payment. So this may be "how you see it", but apparently "how you see it" is based on misinformation.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It was Jordan Chandler who took a non-disclosure payment of millions and he is not involved with this documentary. Neither of the men involved in this documentary received any non-disclosure payment. So this may be "how you see it", but apparently "how you see it" is based on misinformation.

No, it's based on a deluge of misinformation.... it's all we have. No facts, and definitely no evidence...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

No, it's based on a deluge of misinformation.... it's all we have. No facts, and definitely no evidence...

Well... it's a fact that neither of the men on the documentary received non-disclosure payments from Jackson? Unless you're suggesting that they took payment off-the-record to testify for him / stay quiet but that would be pretty damning in itself.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well... it's a fact that neither of the men on the documentary received non-disclosure payments from Jackson? Unless you're suggesting that they took payment off-the-record to testify for him / stay quiet but that would be pretty damning in itself.

No one knows, TS. You don't... I don't.... Jackson's dead so can't be interrogated... although if all the years that the FBI investigated him threw up nothing, I'm not about to believe unsubstantiated reports from people who haven't said anything until Jackson's dead and can't answer.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one knows, TS. You don't... I don't.... Jackson's dead so can't be interrogated... although if all the years that the FBI investigated him threw up nothing, I'm not about to believe unsubstantiated reports from people who haven't said anything until Jackson's dead and can't answer.

Do you believe that Saville might be innocent?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Abso-bloody-lutely.

The man's dead. When he was alive they were happy with their non disclosure payments of million and millions of dollars. Now he's dead they're back for more. How I see it in a nutshell.

If I was offered millions to say I didn't wank or have him wank me I can honestly say I would take it...then my big mouth would have to tell the truth in later years.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

If I was offered millions to say I didn't wank or have him wank me I can honestly say I would take it...then my big mouth would have to tell the truth in later years.

Would you not want to protect other children from similar abuse? For monetary gain?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Would you not want to protect other children from similar abuse? For monetary gain?

That was my thoughts too.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Would you not want to protect other children from similar abuse? For monetary gain?

In an ideal world that I think we all have to sadly acknowledge does not reflect the real world.

People do a lot worse for significantly less, every single day.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

In an ideal world that I think we all have to sadly acknowledge does not reflect the real world.

People do a lot worse for significantly less, every single day.

Yeah, I'm aware. I, too, live on planet Earth.

The question was put to Parm who categorically said he would take a payout.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, I'm aware. I, too, live on planet Earth.

The question was put to Parm who categorically said he would take a payout.

Yes but being totally honest I suspect most people say they wouldn't take the (alleged) $20+ million, until they're actually sat with a cheque for $20+ million in their hands. Especially when there are ZERO guarantees of what will happen if legal action continues, and the case may fail on lack of evidence. 20 million dallaz buys a lot of therapy.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Would you not want to protect other children from similar abuse? For monetary gain?

As a kid, probably not. Infact it probably wouldn't even enter my head at that age.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

As a kid, probably not. Infact it probably wouldn't even enter my head at that age.

True. But then as a kid of the age of 7 I can't imagine I'd have any understanding of any of it. Even money.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

True. But then as a kid of the age of 7 I can't imagine I'd have any understanding of any of it. Even money.

But as a grown up you would look back and think, no..
.that wasn't right, then perhaps you would start talking to protect other kids from this form of abuse.