[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes LT
the Young love the Nazi Gear

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its not racism im afraid

Not your best attempts, LT. Do better.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The Nazi symbol, in America especially due to Neo Nazis and the KKK, is synonymous with racism.

To act like this isn't racist, is to be ignorant of the facts.

It's a tiny, tiny group of people, who are condemned by just about everybody else. They can't gain any power, and won't cause no major harm.

There's nothing to worry about. Just laugh at them, ridicule them, ignore them, but don't let them make you angry. If they start going out their way to cause physical harm on an industrial level, then worry. Until then, just laugh and pity them.

[armand.kay]

i mean to me there’s no doubt that this is racist but like what is even the point in being outraged anymore? like i’m just bored by stories like this. white people doing rascist **** what the hell is new??

[Alf]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

i mean to me there’s no doubt that this is racist but like what is even the point in being outraged anymore? like i’m just bored by stories like this. white people doing rascist **** what the hell is new??

It's not just White people that do it, there's also Black people that are the same, saying things like "Black power"

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's not just White people that do it, there's also Black people that are the same, saying things like "Black power"

black power isn’t racist lmaoo

also i never said it was only white people i’m just not shocked when a story like this comes out.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

black power isn’t racist lmaoo

also i never said it was only white people i’m just not shocked when a story like this comes out.

Well then if Black power isn't racist, then in an equal country with equal laws for everyone, that would mean people preaching White Power isn't racist.

I believe all people who preach that sh1t are racist, I don't discriminate on skin colour.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Not your best attempts, LT. Do better.

baiting members is against the rules and as a mod you should be aware. post about the topic not the member

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

baiting members is against the rules and as a mod you should be aware. post about the topic not the member

Ah, the mini mod routine. Next should be the pearl clutching act, right?

[Tom4784]

If your first response to racism is to get defensive and say 'well black people can be racist too!' instead of condemning the actual act of racism itself then that says more than words ever will.

[user104658]

I mean realistically they're just teenagers who thought they'd try to be edgy and impress their friends by being "rly controversial".

Blown massively out of proportion by a rabid media IMO.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If your first response to racism is to get defensive and say 'well black people can be racist too!' instead of condemning the actual act of racism itself then that says more than words ever will.

I did say, it is racist in my last post, I said they should be laughed at, ridiculed or ignored.

Somebody in this thread actually said that Black people preaching Black power isn't racist, but White people preaching White Power is.

[Tom4784]

If you do a racist thing on the internet, you have to accept the fact that you'll be thought as a racist. These teenagers were raised with the internet, they should know more than any other generation how putting things online can haunt you.

[user104658]

The 89-year-old Holocaust survivor said the students "didn't realise what it really meant".

She said: "I was their age when I realised my life was completely shattered and that I will never have a family again.

We have to learn from the history and the mistakes that we have made and try to make it a safe and a better world for everybody"
"They were a little bit drunk I suppose, which they shouldn't be at that age but it does happen, and I think they really didn't think about the consequences.

Not much else to be said IMO.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

I did say, it is racist in my last post, I said they should be laughed at, ridiculed or ignored.

Somebody in this thread actually said that Black people preaching Black power isn't racist, but White people preaching White Power is.

It depends on the context. The term 'White Power' was coined out of white supremacy. Black power is more akin to girl power, it's more about empowerment rather than claiming supremacy over another race or gender.

There might be Black supremacists out there but you've got to accept that the origins of white power and black power are different and so are their meanings for the most part.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If you do a racist thing on the internet, you have to accept the fact that you'll be thought as a racist. These teenagers were raised with the internet, they should know more than any other generation how putting things online can haunt you.

They have free speech in America, what they're doing is not illegal.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well then if Black power isn't racist, then in an equal country with equal laws for everyone, that would mean people preaching White Power isn't racist.

I believe all people who preach that sh1t are racist, I don't discriminate on skin colour.

I mean the black power movement was created to empower a downtrodden people. a lot of it is actually about black people having pride in their identity despite society telling them that everything about them is worthless. White power is just white people asserting their dominance on everybody else as the 'superior race'. Black power has never bean about dominance or being superior.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It depends on the context. The term 'White Power' was coined out of white supremacy. Black power is more akin to girl power, it's more about empowerment rather than claiming supremacy over another race or gender.

There might be Black supremacists out there but you've got to accept that the origins of white power and black power are different and so are their meanings for the most part.

Well, if we want an equal society, then they can't be different. It won't work.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

They have free speech in America, what they're doing is not illegal.

Where did I deny them their free speech? They have the freedom of their views and everyone else has the freedom to judge them. It's a two way street.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well, if we want an equal society, then they can't be different. It won't work.

..... Seriously?

They ARE different, you can't equate what is a racist term in white power, which only came into existence BECAUSE of White Supremacy to a term of empowerment for people who don't feel empowered.

You're ignoring the context in order to stick to your guns and it won't work.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Where did I deny them their free speech? They have the freedom of their views and everyone else has the freedom to judge them. It's a two way street.

I didn't say you denied it, I'm just having a conversation with you.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

They have free speech in America, what they're doing is not illegal.

Yes the KKK
are free to live in their zones

America is a Free Nation
Land of the Gun.

I worked hard there,

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

..... Seriously?

They ARE different, you can't equate what is a racist term in white power, which only came into existence BECAUSE of White Supremacy to a term of empowerment for people who don't feel empowered.

You're ignoring the context in order to stick to your guns and it won't work.

Black people are free and have equal opportunities in the Western world, today. Have done all my lifetime.

Kanye said it, "People choose"

[Moniqua]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well then if Black power isn't racist, then in an equal country with equal laws for everyone, that would mean people preaching White Power isn't racist.

I believe all people who preach that sh1t are racist, I don't discriminate on skin colour.

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's not just White people that do it, there's also Black people that are the same, saying things like "Black power"

I mean this must be baiting like what part of the original post warranted bringing up ‘black power’ as a comparison? Lmao