[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

Because unless we've been sexually abused ourselves as young children (or actually, ever) we have absolutely no idea what that does to someone and how it affects them or their decisions. & even then, everyone is extremely different.

I can't even begin to imagine how something like that affects even the most basic functioning and rationale of a person.

I was abused Jonnii and know how it feels, and I think the documentary is full of BS.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I was abused Jonnii and know how it feels, and I think the documentary is full of BS.

Look at all the children who were abused by priests in the Catholic Church though, an awful lot of those people didn't come forward until years later. It's clear from the documentary that those men had parents who wanted to push the "relationships" their sons had with MJ for their own selfish reasons so I would imagine coming forward to them wouldn't have been easy, they don't come across like they were ever really in their childs corner

[joeysteele]

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Look at all the children who were abused by priests in the Catholic Church though, an awful lot of those people didn't come out until years later. It's clear from the documentary that those men had parents who wanted to push the "relationships" their sons had with MJ for their own selfish reasons so I would imagine coming forward to them wouldn't have been easy, they don't come across like they were ever really in their childs corner

And the guilty Priests when accused and alive have had to have trials and been found guilty in the main.

Something you always want to dismiss as to MJ, having said trial.
With a verdict you don't seem to accept.

Thankfully in law it should be seen as right just as a guilty verdict should have been too.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

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And the guilty Priests when accused and alive have had to have trials and been found guilty in the main.

Something you always want to dismiss as to MJ, having said trial.
With a verdict you don't seem to accept.

Thankfully in law it should be seen as right just as a guilty verdict should have been too.

The conviction rate for cases like sexual abuse and rape is very low so alot of the times I would dismiss results of cases yes. Unfortunately such a crime is very hard to prove, so being found "not guilty" alot of times just means "not provable" I mean that case in NI with the rugby players is a prime example, the girl got into a taxi crying and covered in blood.....but those men were still found "not guilty" so what hope does anyone with no physical evidence and taking on a multi million dollar mega star have?

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The conviction rate for cases like sexual abuse and rape is very low so alot of the times I would dismiss results of cases yes. Unfortunately such a crime is very hard to prove, so being found "not guilty" alot of times just means "not provable" I mean that case in NI with the rugby players is a prime example, the girl got into a taxi crying and covered in blood.....but those men were still found "not guilty" so what hope does anyone with no physical evidence and taking on a multi million dollar mega star have?

But the factor isn't just the time wade & Jimmy took to come forward , there's a lot of hole's in their stories.

I don't judge or discredit victims who later reveal they were abused,because everyone is different and at the time they're either scared or they worry they won't be believed as usually the abuser has power . It must be difficult how they carry it around for all those years before they get closure& justice.

But Wade & Jimmy aren't in that category, I don't trust them and I don't believe them . plus why try & sue the Jackson estate holding them accountable?!! What kind of crap is that .

If they were genuinely abused by MJ they would just get their story out there without wanting money. They could of just stuck to interviews as they'll make money from that. Plus Wade has his little scam charity website, this whole thing reeks of greed am afraid.