[Twosugars]

one of the op pieces in the guardian

The terms of the extension are not drafted for the prime minister’s benefit. They contain a message from the EU direct to the House of Commons. In crude terms: piss or get off the pot. If you want to leave with a deal, vote for the damned deal. If you are foolish enough to leave without a deal, do not blame us. Have a couple more weeks to think about it. But if you want something else, a referendum or a softer Brexit, work it out soon. And then send someone who isn’t May to talk to us about it.

EU leaders cannot say explicitly that they no longer want to deal with the current prime minister. Urging regime change is beyond the pale of normal diplomacy among democratic states. But there is no effort to conceal the frustration in May or the evacuation of confidence in her as a negotiating partner. The one thing everyone in Brussels, Berlin and Paris had most wanted to avoid from an article 50 extension was giving May a licence to carry on behaving as she has done for what feels like an eternity. They could no longer tolerate the hollow shell of a prime minister shuttling back and forth between Tory hardliners demanding fantasy Brexits and Brussels negotiators who trade in realities.

There is a difference between patience with the prime minister and readiness to help her country navigate through its current crisis. There are still stores of goodwill available for Britain in Brussels, but they cannot be unlocked by May.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there was a loan company that just got their fingers wrapped for suggesting people could get a no deal brexit loan so they could stockpile stuff.

Look at the shelves at Christmas, emptied when shops are closed for a day. That will happen on a no deal for sure

I find myself curiously calm about it all

Maybe people will lost a few lbs and that will help the NHS

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

one of the op pieces in the guardian

well her party had an opportunity to oust her and they bottled it so......also its interesting that the EU say this now at the 11th and a half hour just when it becomes clear May is willing to go out on no deal

[The Slim Reaper]

From yesterday:

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

well her party had an opportunity to oust her and they bottled it so......also its interesting that the EU say this now at the 11th and a half hour just when it becomes clear May is willing to go out on no deal

you do realize it is a journalist's interpretation not EU's words?
but anyway why would they be saying it earlier when situation was different?
Idg your logic

[Twosugars]

The petition goes over 3 million

[Twosugars]

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The Conservative party’s second biggest donor has called for a government of national unity to be formed as soon as possible to solve the Brexit crisis.

John Griffin, the taxi tycoon who has given Ł4m to the Tories over the last six years, said the party should reach out to MPs from Labour, the Lib Dems and the Scottish National Party if it is to emerge from EU negotiations with a successful deal.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

you do realize it is a journalist's interpretation not EU's words?
but anyway why would they be saying it earlier when situation was different?
Idg your logic

No its not a journalists interpretation, according to Sky News last night the EU were seeking a way to negotiate around May but only after it became clear she was ready to trigger no deal,they have had no issue dealing with May for the last two years, but suddenly when they realise she cant enforce their crappy deal she is the wrong person for the job

[bots]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

one of the op pieces in the guardian

honestly, that is complete nonsense. The EU know exactly who they are dealing with, they have an agreement that they have said wont be renegotiated. Any new leader wont change that.

There is no way the british public or the leave mp's will allow customs union to be added because that means free movement, that just will not happen. Corbyn tried twice already to get that added and it was voted down twice. It won't pass on a 10th try

If Mp's vote down May's deal again, i will happily support a no deal

[The Slim Reaper]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I posted this last night, Vince Cable was at the cross party conference and he said the lurch to no deal from many MPs was alarming, basically as above the people voted for pain so that is what they will get

I think it has become a personal battle for May not she has steadily said we will leave on 29th March and she is going to enforce it no matter what, exacting revenge for all the strong and stable taunts, I think she is having a let them eat cake moment lol

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

honestly, that is complete nonsense. The EU know exactly who they are dealing with, they have an agreement that they have said wont be renegotiated. Any new leader wont change that.

There is no way the british public or the leave mp's will allow customs union to be added because that means free movement, that just will not happen. Corbyn tried twice already to get that added and it was voted down twice. It won't pass on a 10th try

If Mp's vote down May's deal again, i will happily support a no deal

wrong. they would be happy to grant a long extension if there was a consensus to look for a new deal with different red lines
how do you know what the british public would support if there was another ref?

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Can you read?

The corruption on that poll is from alt-right trolls, not from remainers.

Yes
But they are Feck all to do with me.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

The petition goes over 3 million

Yes half are Corrupted Auto Bot Votes
though...........................

[TomC]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Henry Newman from Open Europe?

...yes

[bots]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

wrong. they would be happy to grant a long extension if there was a consensus to look for a new deal with different red lines
how do you know what the british public would support if there was another ref?

a ref is not going to list more than 2 options, also, MP's will not support leaving the EU and joining the customs union AND most importantly, the leave side would never allow leave to be tied to being part of the customs union in a ref .... your concept is a complete non starter

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes half are Corrupted Auto Bot Votes
though...........................

C'mon my brother, you keep coming back to this insanity. It's not half, it's a tiny percentage.

I know the petition can't compare to Farage's 1 man and his dog march, but it's a start, and we'll see if the London March tomorrow manages to bring out more than a guy with a blue passport.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

a ref is not going to list more than 2 options, also, MP's will not support leaving the EU and joining the customs union AND most importantly, the leave side would never allow leave to be tied to being part of the customs union in a ref .... your concept is a complete non starter

wrong
there's enough support in parliament for a soft brexit, cross-party support

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
But they are Feck all to do with me.

nobody's accusing you personally Arista

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

nobody's accusing you personally Arista

Of course.
I know that.

[Twosugars]

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No advice in place for patients in England if drug supplies dry up

Neither the Department of Health and Social Care nor NHS England has any official advice for patients in England about what they should do if they are left unable to get hold of their normal drugs.

The Patients Association campaign group is advising people who cannot access drugs from their GP or pharmacy to contact their local clinical commissioning group (CCG).

“Patients are in a very difficult position. The end result of Brexit could mean no change to their medicine supply at all, or potentially serious disruption,” said Rachel Power, the chief executive of the Patients Association.

[arista]

Originally Posted by TomC

...yes

Yes I have met Henry
he is Fit , Sharp and Clever.


https://twitter.com/HenryNewman

[arista]

[The Slim Reaper]

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by TomC

...yes

It's just a shame his opinions are trash!