[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, I've never come across it. The "norm" around anyone I know when taking kids on holiday is take them with you to eat, they just go to bed a bit later

Indeed....

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what about letting your daughter drink at 16 and she chokes to death on vomit, what about letting her go to a concert at 17 with her pals and she takes a dodgy E - letting your 7 year old son go to the local park and he gets abducted on his way home?

There are necessary nominal risks involved in letting your children grow up and become more independent, just as there are necessary nominal risks in life. We have electrical appliances in our homes although there's a risk that they will start a fire; we have smoke detectors to minimize the risk that a fire will end in a death because a responsible adult will or should know what to do in the event of a fire.

Leaving a 3 year old (and two younger children) ALONE in an apartment on holiday is not a necessary nominal risk and the fact is that most people simply would not do it, despite your insistence otherwise. I can't figure out if you're so adamant that it's normal for "McCann reasons"... or because it's something you've done in the past and you don't want to think of it as poor parenting?

[Twosugars]

TS, it's bc he fancies Kate

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Clarence Mitchell is their PR Spokesman......... I think I'll take his thoughts with a pinch of salt thanks

Indeed I cannot think of anyones opinion I would trust less tbh

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

look at the anguish here

When Kate grows up a bit and loses her looks (which to be fair are very good, especiaslly for someone her age and with the stress she goes through) will you still be 'team McCann'? Never seen you defending Gerry, and you seem to love randomly posting Kate photos

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Indeed I cannot think of anyones opinion I would trust less tbh

do you seriously think if he thought for one second 2 parents had murdered their child he would not go to the police?

he, more than anyone would be best placed

His testimony shows you how ridiculous the youtube conspiracy theories are

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and you would blame your neighbour for being burgled for not having a dog?

I would 'blame' my neighbour for being burgled if they had gone out for hours, left their front door wide open along with all their windows. Insurance companies would too oddly enough.

Edit. Should maybe clarify my use of 'blame' here. It would be the fault of the burglar for stealing. But, the homeowners made it easy. All of this is kind of besides the point though as I don't believe an abductor existed.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

do you seriously think if he thought for one second 2 parents had murdered their child he would not go to the police?

Don't care nor know what his personal opinion is really. But his job is media spin, so he's hardly going to do anything less than jab his tongue repeatedly up their arses.

[thesheriff443]

Hand on heart I’m still not 100 per cent convinced the parents were involved in what ever happened to maddie.

Any day the truth could come out, so if you are involved it must be a living nightmare.

Would cracks not start to show, so much time and money has been invested in this case.

If the evidence was there that the parents were involved I can’t see top police turning a blind eye.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Hand on heart I’m still not 100 per cent convinced the parents were involved in what ever happened to maddie.

Any day the truth could come out, so if you are involved it must be a living nightmare.

Would cracks not start to show, so much time and money has been invested in this case.

If the evidence was there that the parents were involved I can’t see top police turning a blind eye.

Members should avoid stacking information/"evidence" to prove a theory if a simpler explanation fits the observations

take a razor to them

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

When Kate grows up a bit and loses her looks (which to be fair are very good, especiaslly for someone her age and with the stress she goes through) will you still be 'team McCann'? Never seen you defending Gerry, and you seem to love randomly posting Kate photos

She looks more & more boney in the face with emotionless expression but if that's what's considered pretty then OK

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, I've never come across it. The "norm" around anyone I know when taking kids on holiday is take them with you to eat, they just go to bed a bit later

This. Or eating earlier to get back to the apartment earlier.

OR, something even easier when you have such a large group of people... taking it in turns to babysit the kids whilst people have an evening off.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

This. Or eating earlier to get back to the apartment earlier.

OR, something even easier when you have such a large group of people... taking it in turns to babysit the kids whilst people have an evening off.

Quite, that would be so bloody easy and the parents would have had to miss out on ONE night each.

When we go away as a family, if its too late for the kids to go out (and 8pm or whatevers not considered late for kids on holiday) we do this, one adult watches them all. Easy. But thats of course for parents/family/friends who actually give a crap. Kids love it too as its like a sleepover, a bunch of kids in one room. Its quite stressful for the adult drawing the short straw though