[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

[Tom Harwood
‏Verified account @tomhfh

Not including the Tory Party as a pro-Brexit vote when doing weird maths to manipulate your result is beyond mental.

��Some�� journalists who should know better are actually taking the piss.

Being factual, it's 60/40 to Leave.
Being generous to Remainers, it's 52% Leave. Again.]

oof

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

look at the front row faces

Yes Claire Fox
New Brexit Party MEP

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I fully agree, he’s the ultimate opportunist, he’s pulled the wool over the country’s eyes to benefit himself and he’s gonna be laughing all the way to the bank, he’s many things, but dumb isn’t one of them, he knows what he’s got to do to keep himself relevant

Oh yeah, hes a smart bloke alright..will give him that.

[arista]

General Election?
NOW?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

[Tom Harwood
‏Verified account @tomhfh

Not including the Tory Party as a pro-Brexit vote when doing weird maths to manipulate your result is beyond mental.

��Some�� journalists who should know better are actually taking the piss.

Being factual, it's 60/40 to Leave.
Being generous to Remainers, it's 52% Leave. Again.]

Erm, the Tory party are split, just like Labour. So surely, the bets way to estimate is just to take those two out totally?!

Its definitely 'weird maths' to include the Tory party in with leave, whilst totally discounting labour

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

I personally think considering the Labour vote as being anything other than at least 75% "probably would vote remain" is entirely disingenuous in these figures, honestly. The honest maths (like I said on the other thread) is that it's still hovering around 50/50 on a binary vote, and a very heavy indication that "No Deal Brexit" is heavily opposed. .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ha, it was you that actually motivated me to take 2 days worth of painkillers and shuffle my way over to our voting station on an extremely bad pain day

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

Bring it on.

Even with your hard brexit London will be alright.
It's the brexit voters themselves who will suffer the most
Turkeys voting for Christmas

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You see Cherie? I knew I shouldn't name you as a pointless Irish member in Shaun's game

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I personally think considering the Labour vote as being anything other than at least 75% "probably would vote remain" is entirely disingenuous in these figures, honestly. The honest maths (like I said on the other thread) is that it's still hovering around 50/50 on a binary vote, and a very heavy indication that "No Deal Brexit" is heavily opposed. .

Yeah, I would think a choice between no deal and revoke article 50 would be about 60/40 for revoking. And thats being generous to no deal. No deal brexit is an extremist position I think (obviously not saying all who want this are extremists, but in terms of the vote itself...its an outlier) and to make out its the majority choice is..just wrong.

As I have said repeatedly, I know there are many more people than those I know, but the huge majority of leave voters I know, voted leave assuming there would be some sort of deal. A few are for no deal..but not many of them. Mind, a lot of those who want a deal seem to be of the opinion that we could get a deal that was basically..no immigrants but keep free trade..which is obviously fantasy! Keep the good bits and get rid of the bad. Erm, not likely.

[Crimson Dynamo]

And wow at Marie doing so well in France

[reece(:]

Labour: Unknown

[arista]

For VICKY

Scotland Welcomes One Brexit Party MEP

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Claire Fox
New Brexit Party MEP

Horrid woman

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

For VICKY

Scotland Welcomes One Brexit Party MEP

Its no shock to me that Scotland vote mainly SNP. Labour have been dying there for a while

I do find the voting breakdowns quite interesting though.

And the fact Labour have none there, and the Tories managed one is quite funny really. I thought a Scot voting Tory was basically a unicorn!

And think Labour will be hammered in the GE, but not quite as badly as the Tories. I think its all going to be split even more, and a few parties will have to join to form a majority, not just one party being basically bought to help the larger stay in power That day I still dread, as I have still not found a party I can vote for, and I feel like..I have to vote as people basically died for my right to. So maybe a spoiled ballot or something

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

You see Cherie? I knew I shouldn't name you as a pointless Irish member in Shaun's game

Probs cost you points as well so a double whammy

[arista]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Horrid woman

a Ex Communist
Infact

[Vicky.]

Mind, for all Tommy Robinsons bluster, he did well didn't he Even with his many fanboys, nowhere.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Bring it on.

Even with your hard brexit London will be alright.
It's the brexit voters themselves who will suffer the most
Turkeys voting for Christmas

The low vote in Yorkshire

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Its no shock to me that Scotland vote mainly SNP. Labour have been dying there for a while

I do find the voting breakdowns quite interesting though.

And the fact Labour have none there, and the Tories managed one is quite funny really. I thought a Scot voting Tory was basically a unicorn!

And think Labour will be hammered in the GE, but not quite as badly as the Tories. I think its all going to be split even more, and a few parties will have to join to form a majority, not just one party being basically bought to help the larger stay in power That day I still dread, as I have still not found a party I can vote for, and I feel like..I have to vote as people basically died for my right to. So maybe a spoiled ballot or something

Yes Labour not liked in Scotland
thats why Conservatives got in as main MP's
back in the 2017 General Election.
That was a Shock.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Mind, for all Tommy Robinsons bluster, he did well didn't he Even with his many fanboys, nowhere.

Poor that

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Labour not liked in Scotland
thats why Conservatives got in as main MP's
back in the 2017 General Election.
That was a Shock.

For some maybe, for me..I thought it would probably happen. SNP promised votes on leaving the union, which seem as divisive in Scotland as Brexit is here. So they were going to get a lot of support. Even moreso now, when Scotland is basically being punished for England being dicks! Another referendum there now, I think would win by a landlslide tbh. And I think thats why many vote SNP. For that chance of another vote. As much as I can't stand Sturgeon, she really does seem to want the best for her country, and manages to offset a lot of the Tories crueler policies. Kind of wish when (not if IMO) Scotland go off on their own, they would take the ****ing North East too Though tbh, the north east is a bit of a dead fish. Why would anyone want us, we vote against the EU despite recieving a hell of a lot of funding from them, so vote for our area to be even bloody worse than it is now..

[reece(:]

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

No no, to be 'fair' you have to add the Tory vote to hard brexit (despite the tory party being divided..), and discount Labour! Otherwise you are manipulating statistics

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No no, to be 'fair' you have to add the Tory vote to hard brexit (despite the tory party being divided..), and discount Labour! Otherwise you are manipulating statistics

Oh yes the hard brexit Tories including hard brexiteer MPs Ken Clarke, Dom Grieve, Amber Rudd and Phillip Hammond etc !!! (the latter said he would vote against a no deal Tory whip)