[user104658]

I still disagree on WW's feminism . In my opinion there are several mis-steps.

1) Hyper-sexualised appearance

2) Costume and hair are impractical for the purpose of aesthetics. Obviously not unusual for the genre but again, the reasons are obvious (eye candy).

3) She lives naive and isolated on an island of women until a world-wise street-smart man comes along and introduces her to "the real world". This is the biggest and most glaring problem and IMO is enough to completely negate any feminist message that the movie might otherwise have.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I still disagree on WW's feminism . In my opinion there are several mis-steps.

1) Hyper-sexualised appearance

2) Costume and hair are impractical for the purpose of aesthetics. Obviously not unusual for the genre but again, the reasons are obvious (eye candy).

3) She lives naive and isolated on an island of women until a world-wise street-smart man comes along and introduces her to "the real world". This is the biggest and most glaring problem and IMO is enough to completely negate any feminist message that the movie might otherwise have.

I remember watching a youtuber a while back and she was speaking about the differences between WW in the Zack Snyder films and in her solo film and she bought up her hair as a tangent and how she looked in WW as a positive because she took it as a sign that women had a lot of creative control in that film compared to the other films because they made her look great in every scene while she had flat hair in Justice League and such. She basically said something like 'women don't let other women look bad while males wouldn't often recognise the details' such as plumping up the hair to make it look better. It's a light point but it did make me think that the way WW looks in her solo film is as much for women as it is for men.

I don't think your third point is enough to negate the feminism in the film because, like I said before, the whole point of feminism in Wonder Woman is that they push equality and mutual respect. A man showing her a world she's never known doesn't make the film any less feminist especially considering that in the sequel the roles are reversed which suggests that gender didn't even play a role in that decision. Wonder Woman at it's heart is about co-operation, not competition. To me, that's what feminism is, recognising the struggles that women go through and working together to try to improve things and solve problems neither gender could do alone.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I still disagree on WW's feminism . In my opinion there are several mis-steps.

1) Hyper-sexualised appearance

2) Costume and hair are impractical for the purpose of aesthetics. Obviously not unusual for the genre but again, the reasons are obvious (eye candy).

3) She lives naive and isolated on an island of women until a world-wise street-smart man comes along and introduces her to "the real world". This is the biggest and most glaring problem and IMO is enough to completely negate any feminist message that the movie might otherwise have.

1) Eh, films are visual medium. People like to look at pretty people.

2) As above

3) Should she have googled "the rest of the world" and then went to see it?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

1) Eh, films are visual medium. People like to look at pretty people.

Well, first of all it being a visual medium doesn't make it all about sexual attraction.

Second of all, "pretty" is subjective.