[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Alf

I bet I could look through this forum and see vicious abuse about celebrities from most forum members. Why doesn't she just grow a thicker skin, like Piers Morgan has?

You're being incredibly ignorant.

Piers Morgan is a grown man, if he has a thicker skin and managed to look past it then good for him. Sadly at 19/20 Jesy could not and the vicious abuse she suffered drove her to attempt to end her life.

Do you seriously think young adults discussing social media and how it can be used to abuse people is a bad thing?

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

You're being incredibly ignorant.

Piers Morgan is a grown man, if he has a thicker skin and managed to look past it then good for him. Sadly at 19/20 Jesy could not and the vicious abuse she suffered drove her to attempt to end her life.

Do you seriously think young adults discussing social media and how it can be used to abuse people is a bad thing?

Jordan and Curtis (and Michael is still a young adult) were not much older than Jesy was, you were just as cruel and sharp with your tounge as those trolls were to jesy, it’s still the same being about people on tv you don’t know.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Jordan and Curtis (and Michael is still a young adult) were not much older than Jesy was, you were just as cruel and sharp with your tounge as those trolls were to jesy, it’s still the same being about people on tv you don’t know.

Saying it on here is different to going on Twitter and @ a celeb and telling them to kill themselves but you're a ****ing joke because we know what you've done in the past so keep throwing stones in that glass house

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No it’s not...what makes you think people dont read the comments on here ffs?

We used to have family members come on during BB, and a lot of housemates read the forums after they leave, pretty sure family members will look at the LI threads as well, it’s not any different to post abuse indirectly, I haven’t watched this, but heard an interview she did about it, she got horrendous abuse because she didn’t conform to the perceived norm of what a pop star would look like, most would have been throw away comments like those that were made on here over and over during the BB years, I hope her doing this will help raise awareness that words can really hurt no matter what age you are, I doubt it though

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Cherie

We used to have family members come on during BB, and a lot of housemates read the forums after they leave, pretty sure family members will look at the LI threads as well, it’s not any different to post abuse indirectly, I haven’t watched this, but heard an interview she did about it, she got horrendous abuse because she didn’t conform to the perceived norm of what a pop star would look like, most would have been throw away comments like those that were made on here over and over during the BB years, I hope her doing this will help raise awareness that words can really hurt no matter what age you are, I doubt it though

She will raise some awareness for making this programme...sadly it wont stop it.

[James]

I haven't seen this show, but social media and the Internet in general is a complete mess when it comes to people giving opinions.

When someone can be anonymous or even just unknown or Twitter or Instagram there's no adult responsibility or accountability. It basically turns people back into children and brings out their inner bully.

A lot of people who are active on social media can't handle different opinions to their own. I noticed yesterday the celebrity chef James Martin was trending on Twitter - he made some comment about political correctness - when you look at the comments in response he was getting all sorts of personal abuse said about him and sent to him.

With reality shows like X Factor there's many who take it too far in supporting or criticising contestants. Little Mix are lucky in the respect that they are one of the few acts to gain fame and fortune over the years from X Factor, so they have access to the media to get their story out. There are probably many other contestants who suffered through horrible comments made about them and disappeared from celebrity after 3-6 months and wouldn't be featured in the media.

Originally Posted by LukeB

Difference is people sent Jesy she should die on her social media accounts and she had no choice but to see them but if she saw stuff on the forum then she has a choice to see comments because she's looking herself up,it's different

as horrible as it is and i don't agree with comments about peoples looks etc, it would be better if people put these comments on a forum or a tweet that doesn't @ them than actually searching for their social media accounts and messaging them abuse. Gives them control on what they see because the only way they would see the nasty messages is if they search for themselves.

Both of these aren't great.

One is equivalent to an abusive letter sent to a person through their front door.

The other is equivalent to posting an abusive message about someone on a supermarket's community notice board, for hundreds or thousands of people that the person might know, to share and laugh at.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by James

A lot of people who are active on social media can't handle different opinions to their own. I noticed yesterday the celebrity chef James Martin was trending on Twitter - he made some comment about political correctness - when you look at the comments in response he was getting all sorts of personal abuse said about him and sent to him.

I think James Martin going on an unhinged transphobic rant about a cartoon character and then accidentally coming out as an otter is a slightly different case to Jesy Nelson getting death threats for being a woman in the public eye

[James]

Originally Posted by MB.

I think James Martin going on an unhinged transphobic rant about a cartoon character and then accidentally coming out as an otter is a slightly different case to Jesy Nelson getting death threats for being a woman in the public eye

I thought it was about 'Fireman Sam' being dropped by a fire service.

But whatever it was they should have criticised his opinion rather than sending personal insults. Many of them would likely say they were appalled by the abuse Jesy from Little Mix got, but then people online don't live up to the standards they set for others.

[Time to Sleigh]

Originally Posted by James

I thought it was about 'Fireman Sam' being dropped by a fire service.

But whatever it was they should have criticised his opinion rather than sending personal insults. Many of them would likely say they were appalled by the abuse Jesy from Little Mix got, but then people online don't live up to the standards they set for others.

The thing is it can be all to easy to say personal insults without even realising its personal. But the other person can be so badly affected. Its such a dangerous world online!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by James

I thought it was about 'Fireman Sam' being dropped by a fire service.

But whatever it was they should have criticised his opinion rather than sending personal insults. Many of them would likely say they were appalled by the abuse Jesy from Little Mix got, but then people online don't live up to the standards they set for others.

... not always living up to the standards being set for others isn’t an online thing though, it’s quite a common human characteristic...in fact it’s inherent in all of us to one degree or another...we scream hypocrite at others, while adjusting our own hypocrisies to fit our judgements, we are all hypocrites...but own behaviour will always or often feel a justification...humans have always done this...how Jesy was targeted and attacked though, is an entirely different thing...all of her beauty has been stripped from her ...(...in her own mind..)...because the voices telling her she’s beautiful have been drowned out by those telling her something quite cruelly different...words have always carried much weight and responsibility...and hypocrisy has always been a thing...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Jordan and Curtis (and Michael is still a young adult) were not much older than Jesy was, you were just as cruel and sharp with your tounge as those trolls were to jesy, it’s still the same being about people on tv you don’t know.

I think we should all think about what we say and you are right some comments are below the belt and uncalled for, people were cruel about some of the LI contestants , to me it's not so different than calling people on social media, it shouldn't happen at all and who knows that they or someone they know would never see the remarks , comment on their personalities etc by all accounts but it should never be about looks or weight.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think we should all think about what we say and you are right some comments are below the belt and uncalled for, people were cruel about some of the LI contestants , to me it's not so different than calling people on social media, it shouldn't happen at all and who knows that they or someone they know would never see the remarks , comment on their personalities etc by all accounts but it should never be about looks or weight.