[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Sadly , they must work more hours

Why not just pay them more?

[Beso]

The best moment of today's events was corbyn leaving the arena being flanked by 20 flunkies holding arms in a ring if steal around him, one of them nearly fell.over one of the 2 camera men....it was very close at one point until the foyer opened out.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people were sick, disabled and vulnerable during the last labour government and they did sod all to improve things

Yes there were sick and disabled under Labour.

.Labour increased cold weather payments to £25 from £8+ the Cons had it at.

Labour brought in the winter fuel allowance.

Labour brought in the less than ideal pension credit but it was still something that helped the poorest pensioners.

Labour never froze benefit increases.

Labour brought in the minimum wage despite the Cons voting against it every step of the way.

Labour were wrong to bring in ATOS to carry out assessments of the sick and disabled but never put the humiliating, degrading testing criteria that the coalition did.

Where people with terminal cancer having to fight for benefits wrongly stopped, having to fight for months, then forced to be wheeled into court, then winning their case.
Too late for some of them.

The Labour Party never had the United Nations stating that as a government they'd acted against the human rights of the sick and disabled.

That adds up to a government being vile in my book.
Had Labour done that I'd have said they were vile too.

It's a disgrace.
I've been part of representing cases for people with motor neurone disease, having their benefit's stopped because they didn't go to an assessments centre, and the assessors wouldn't do a home assessment.

So to Parmnion too, don't call me a hypocrite.
Biased against the heartlessness and cruelty of this government I may proudly be, but I'm no hypocrite.

Frankly anyone who supports any government discriminating against people sick and disabled as this one has since 2011, astound me.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Yes there were sick and disabled under Labour.

.Labour increased cold weather payments to £25 from £8+ the Cons had it at.

Labour brought in the winter fuel allowance.

Labour brought in the less than ideal pension credit but it was still something that helped the poorest pensioners.

Labour never froze benefit increases.

Labour brought in the minimum wage despite the Cons voting against it every step of the way.

Labour were wrong to bring in ATOS to carry out assessments of the sick and disabled but never put the humiliating, degrading testing criteria that the coalition did.

Where people with terminal cancer having to fight for benefits wrongly stopped, having to fight for months, then forced to be wheeled into court, then winning their case.
Too late for some of them.

The Labour Party never had the United Nations stating that as a government they'd acted against the human rights of the sick and disabled.

That adds up to a government being vile in my book.
Had Labour done that I'd have said they were vile too.

It's a disgrace.
I've been part of representing cases for people with motor neurone disease, having their benefit's stopped because they didn't go to an assessments centre, and the assessors wouldn't do a home assessment.

So to Parmnion too, don't call me a hypocrite.
Biased against the heartlessness and cruelty of this government I may proudly be, but I'm no hypocrite.

Frankly anyone who supports any government discriminating against people sick and disabled as this one has since 2011, astound me.

The first five examples patronise all the sick and disabled people I know....so I stopped reading.

[arista]

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The first five examples patronise all the sick and disabled people I know....so I stopped reading.

The truth hurts you then.

All that extra finance has helped hundreds of thousands of sick and disabled.
Poorest and pensioners.
Maybe you don't care about that but the vast majority of them do.

Nothing has been added to it by this lot.
In fact they've taken money off the sick and disabled.

Anyway fine, dismiss my post.
You're just a waste of my time.
Very sadly.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The truth hurts you then.

All that extra finance has helped hundreds of thousands of sick and disabled.
Maybe you don't care about that but the vast majority of them do.

Nothing has been added to it by this lot.
In fact they've taken money off the sick and disabled.

Anyway fine, dismiss my post.
You're just a waste of my time.
Very sadly.

You had no truth...the first five examples just proved you see sick and disabled people as poor people...the ones I know would slap your face for saying that.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The truth hurts you then.

All that extra finance has helped hundreds of thousands of sick and disabled.
Poorest and pensioners.
Maybe you don't care about that but the vast majority of them do.

Nothing has been added to it by this lot.
In fact they've taken money off the sick and disabled.

Anyway fine, dismiss my post.
You're just a waste of my time.
Very sadly.

Lol Joey. At least it will save you time in future

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Lol Joey. At least it will save you time in future

You shouldn't laugh at a sad man, joey has stated he is upset.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why not just pay them more?

Not at this Time
the whole World of Trade is
not stable.

[arista]

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You had no truth...the first five examples just proved you see sick and disabled people as poor people...the ones I know would slap your face for saying that.

The first 5 examples were directed towards pensioners not the disabled as far as I can see.
I've no doubt you know some disabled people who function very well regardless, however you cannot seriously base the need for support on these few cases surely?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Lol Joey. At least it will save you time in future

It will indeed Twosugars.

Sometimes I feel I'm in a kindergarden here with the childish responses.

Actually, I take that back, there'd be more reason from younger children most likely.

All I said is what Labour put in place, that helped hundreds of thousands.

The problem for the other side, is in over 8 years, the Cons have done nothing to ease either physical or financial burdens on poorer pensioners or the sick and disabled.

In fact the Cons have only ADDED to those burdens.

There's people being left housebound having their mobility scooters taken off them.
Having to go to court after months and sometimes over a year of fighting the decision.
Winning their cases eventually after all the added stress and hardship.

That's what those anti Labour don't want to hear and just want to shut their eyes and ears to.

Really sad people they must be.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It will indeed Twosugars.

Sometimes I feel I'm in a kindergarden here with the childish responses.

Actually, I take that back, there'd be more reason from younger children most likely.

All I said is what Labour put in place, that helped hundreds of thousands.

The problem for the other side, is in over 8 years, the Cons have done nothing to ease either physical or financial burdens on poorer pensioners or the sick and disabled.

In fact the Cons have only ADDED to those burdens.

There's people being left housebound having their mobility scooters taken off them.
Having to go to court after months and sometimes over a year of fighting the decision.
Winning their cases eventually after all the added stress and hardship.

That's what those anti Labour don't want to hear and just want to shut their eyes and ears to.

Really sad people they must be.

If folks acknowledge it, then they have to address or explain it. Far easier to to find a way to ignore it.

[Kizzy]

Scooters.. and have the disabled cluttering up the place demanding accessability and such nonsense! No, keep them housebound, out of sight out of mind then when there are more cuts the public won't care. Disabled people?.... what disabled people I don't see any!

[arista]

Today its The UK Labour Party Green New Deal

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Not at this Time
the whole World of Trade is
not stable.

Profits are stable..

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Profits are stable..

Yes with Some
Others like Thomas Cook were running Billions in debt.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You had no truth...the first five examples just proved you see sick and disabled people as poor people...the ones I know would slap your face for saying that.

Funny that.

In my jjob I've only had the sick and disabled thank me for the help I and others, have provided to get those benefits robbed off them by this government back to them.

Never had one want to slap my face.
Thst just shows the lack of reason you represent.
Pathetic.

[arista]

Corbyn's Speech is Today now


As Tomorrow 11:30AM
Corbyn will be in Parliament.

[arista]

Corbyn is Live at 4PM
reports say.

[Glenn.]

All these pipe dreams lmao

[arista]

Yes Corbyn
just went over all the last 2017 script
updating all the PM problems

[Kizzy]

It was so much better than that,all the commentators said that the policies went much further than 2017... I'm loving it! Bye bye bojo!!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It was so much better than that,all the commentators said that the policies went much further than 2017... I'm loving it! Bye bye bojo!!

It was his finest since becoming leader.
Strong on content and delivery.

I'm no strong fan of Corbyn but he has made Labour real again and a true alternative.

All his policies are ones I can wholeheartedly support.

It was a very confident while not being arrogant with it speech.
Good one indeed and yes going much further than in 2017.