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Old 28-09-2019, 02:17 PM #1
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See, i don't think anyone should use language like that, and that includes Jess Phillips. However, the only people that it would incite to do something would be those that are already violent within the community. It doesn't make me think, oh i will need to go out and knife someone today.
The problem is that those violent people are becoming more empowered by the day by people like Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and the orange toad across the pond. It's no coincidence that Right Wing Terrorism is rapidly becoming the most frequent form of terrorism in the west when our leaders are engaging in this sort of behaviour.

People aren't becoming more violent, it's just that the already violent people are becoming emboldened.
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They are being empowered by everyone in the HoC, who have been playing games for the last 3 years. To single out individuls is wrong in my opinion when the whole rabble have been at it constantly for 3 years.

People are not motivated by language alone, they are motivated by blatant displays of aggression and there has been plenty of that on display in the HoC.

People say MP's have never been in such danger before, but neither have we had a HoC that have been constantly at each others throats for years either.

The whole sorry debacle has no place in a civilised society.
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They are being empowered by everyone in the HoC, who have been playing games for the last 3 years. To single out individuls is wrong in my opinion when the whole rabble have been at it constantly for 3 years.

People are not motivated by language alone, they are motivated by blatant displays of aggression and there has been plenty of that on display in the HoC.

People say MP's have never been in such danger before, but neither have we had a HoC that have been constantly at each others throats for years either.

The whole sorry debacle has no place in a civilised society.
Let's face it they've always been playing games. They're just increasingly juvenile games.
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They are being empowered by everyone in the HoC, who have been playing games for the last 3 years. To single out individuls is wrong in my opinion when the whole rabble have been at it constantly for 3 years.

People are not motivated by language alone, they are motivated by blatant displays of aggression and there has been plenty of that on display in the HoC.

People say MP's have never been in such danger before, but neither have we had a HoC that have been constantly at each others throats for years either.

The whole sorry debacle has no place in a civilised society.
That's a centrist take on it and like all centrist takes, it's in favour of one side more than the other because, instead of criticising the right for constantly engaging in antics that empower extremists, you're making out that taking a stand against that sort of thing is also a contributing factor. You're basically saying that opposition has a large part in creating extremists which in essence is suggesting that no one can oppose anything because rampant false equivalency means that taking a stance against Boris' words, for example, is just as bad as Boris saying those things. Whether that's your intent or not, you're basically pulling for Boris' opposition to stop opposing him.

Centrism is a noble political leaning in theory but in practice it's just endless false equivalency and rather pointless exclamations that 'everyone is as bad as each other' when it's simply not the case.
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...’taking an axe/knife to Emma Willis’ and ‘BB show will be axed etc’...are absolutely not the same thing at all...
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