[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I heard he used to sell pills with proletariat written on them, outside ministry of sound.

Well he was in a band himself and a big fan of the Madchester scene. So more likely the Hacienda.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well he was in a band himself and a big fan of the Madchester scene. So more likely the Hacienda.

Way too north for a politician to go.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

What about the UK did Blair conserve if he was a Tory in Red.

What about the UK did Thatcher conserve? Blair - like Thatcher - was a neoliberal capitalist. Whether or not either could be accurately described as "conservative" (as opposed to a Conservative) is another matter... but whether or not they were Marxist really is not a debate. Describing Blair as a Marxist is just mad.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

What about the UK did Thatcher conserve? Blair - like Thatcher - was a neoliberal capitalist. Whether or not either could be accurately described as "conservative" (as opposed to a Conservative) is another matter... but whether or not they were Marxist really is not a debate. Describing Blair as a Marxist is just mad.

"Many of the Blairites apparatus were student Marxists who remained radical for the rest of their lives"

Peter Hitchens

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

"Many of the Blairites apparatus were student Marxists who remained radical for the rest of their lives"

Peter Hitchens

That statement is all you need to know about Hitchens expertise

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

That statement is all you need to know about Hitchens expertise

He's on twitter, go challenge him on his opinions. I'm sure he'd be happy to debate with you.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

He's on twitter, go challenge him on his opinions. I'm sure he'd be happy to debate with you.

Me debating a daily heil hack and a neocon? No thanks.
I have too much fun debating you

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Me debating a daily heil hack and a neocon? No thanks.
I have too much fun debating you

But you never win against me, you'd have more chance against Hitchens. You're a glutton for punishment.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

But you never win against me, you'd have more chance against Hitchens. You're a glutton for punishment.

Winning against you is so easy, perfect for a lazy person like me

[Withano]

Labour: lets tax Starbucks and help people
Tories: lets not tax Starbucks, **** people
Old people: hmm i’ll vote tories

[bots]

there is no public evidence that Blair slept with prostitutes, so he couldn't have been a tory

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Withano

Labour: lets tax Starbucks and help people
Tories: lets not tax Starbucks, **** people
Old people: hmm i’ll vote tories

Or to put it another way.

Labour: Let's make everybody dependent on the Government
Tories: Let's make everyone take responsibility for their own actions

[UserSince2005]

surprised theyre not offering a free handjob from the JC himself. the things this party with promise.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Im sorry but not everyone can go to Uni so why should only certain people get privileges

Exactly. Why should they? Uni shouldn't be elitist. Everyone should have the opportunity to get there on their merits and talent. Not be hindered by where they're from or how well or worse off their family are.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Tories: Let's make everyone take responsibility for their own actions

The fact you actually believe this statement is hilarious.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The fact you actually believe this statement is hilarious.

I aim to please.

[James]

'Social Democrat' is probably a better way to describe Blair's politics than Marxist or Neo-Liberal.

I remember Peter Hitchens saying an interesting thing on the morning of the EU referendum result - words to the effect that the two 'parties' formed during the campaign Vote Leave and Vote Remain were a better way to divide politics now than the current political parties (generally not just on the EU).

[James]

Originally Posted by arista

As I posted in the Extinction Rebellion protest thread net-zero carbon emissions by 2030 is not possible without new technology unless there are revolutionary changes to modern life.

It's a promise that is set to be broken.