[Swan]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Because this country isnt a war zone?

Neither is France, neither is any European Country.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Swan

Neither is France, neither is any European Country.

I'm not sure of this but I heard basically we give them a house, benefits and free health care.

Not sure you get that over in say Poland.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I'm not sure of this but I heard basically we give them a house, benefits and free health care.

Not sure you get that over in say Poland.

Yes we are too loving

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

"If this country is so terrible why do so many risk their lives to get here?"

They get cash , a home, so much more than nasty France would give any of them.

We are working to get them sent back to France every day
it just a matter of paying France more Cash

Originally Posted by arista

Yes we are too loving

Indeed.

[The Slim Reaper]

Any benefits we pay out to asylum seekers is basically chicken feed, when compared to the like of Rees-Mogg hiding his money from the tax man, taking millions out of the UK, and yet no one says he's a scrounger.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Any benefits we pay out to asylum seekers is basically chicken feed, when compared to the like of Rees-Mogg hiding his money from the tax man, taking millions out of the UK, and yet no one says he's a scrounger.

You seem jealous as you always mention his business success?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You seem jealous as you always mention his business success?

Yes, it's jealousy rather than fairness that's the issue

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Swan

Neither is France, neither is any European Country.

You do realise france, germany and many other european countries have high levels of immigration.

We and most of europe bombed or started conflict in their country in the first place. (The Middle East)

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Samm

You do realise france, germany and many other european countries have high levels of immigration.

We and most of europe bombed or started conflict in their country in the first place. (The Middle East)

Yes i do realise that, which is why i posed the question, why when already in France do thousands risk life and limb to cross the Channel?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Swan

Yes i do realise that, which is why i posed the question, why when already in France do thousands risk life and limb to cross the Channel?

They dont risk their lives these days, the French navy give them a nice escort.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Swan

Neither is France, neither is any European Country.

Because it's Europe/Australia/North America and it's safer than their country.
In their eyes, it's better than where they come from. And really if they had the choice they would rather stay, and not risk their lives. But the economic and political aspects really don't give them a choice.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Because it's Europe/Australia/North America and it's safer than their country.
In their eyes, it's better than where they come from. And really if they had the choice they would rather stay, and not risk their lives. But the economic and political aspects really don't give them a choice.

And you know this because?

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

And you know this because?

It really doesn't take a genius to figure it out. You really can't say that regardless of what happens in Europe, North America or AU/NZ, it's less safe than third world countries or countries that are badly struggling.

People know this from talking with the immigrants themselves, personal stories (like my parents who left their respective countries to come to France), History as a whole, geopolitics etc

And let's not forget that most migration movements are mainly within countries of the same region.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Because it's Europe/Australia/North America and it's safer than their country.
In their eyes, it's better than where they come from. And really if they had the choice they would rather stay, and not risk their lives. But the economic and political aspects really don't give them a choice.

Yes and you see this is my point, they can prosper here, whereas they can't in their own countries. Be that because of wars 'we start' or that their countries are so poorly run, that the rich become mega rich whilst they watch their own people die of thirst and build more lavish mansions. Here you have a fighting chance.

[The Slim Reaper]

If the holocaust was happening today, I'd love to see what our anti-asylum seeker brigade would be saying.

Germany's a modern country, why are they coming here?

People are fleeing genocides, apartheid, war zones (often started by our empire and it's passion for redrawing maps) etc.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If the holocaust was happening today, I'd love to see what our anti-asylum seeker brigade would be saying.

Germany's a modern country, why are they coming here?

People are fleeing genocides, apartheid, war zones (often started by our empire and it's passion for redrawing maps) etc.

Many others are not though.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Many others are not though.

Every social program is a bet on society. Firstly, wanting freedom and a better life is also a valid desire. Pretty sure if Essex (think that's where you live, but apologies if wrong) turned into a war zone, you wold also look to move, so being born where we were born is nothing more than an accident. I'm not really a fan of pulling up the ladder to prevent others from receiving the same opportunities that I had.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Every social program is a bet on society. Firstly, wanting freedom and a better life is also a valid desire. Pretty sure if Essex (think that's where you live, but apologies if wrong) turned into a war zone, you wold also look to move, so being born where we were born is nothing more than an accident. I'm not really a fan of pulling up the ladder to prevent others from receiving the same opportunities that I had.

Let's say it's not a warzone!





What do I do then, ask the government for free travel to get to the place I want, or do I use the money I've obviously got already saved up.

Do I then gamble my life on unsafe travel to escape the non warzone of my native country so I can be a greedy bastard and make more money.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If the holocaust was happening today, I'd love to see what our anti-asylum seeker brigade would be saying.

Germany's a modern country, why are they coming here?

People are fleeing genocides, apartheid, war zones (often started by our empire and it's passion for redrawing maps) etc.

If you are resorting to the Holocaust then it suggests you are struggling to justify your pov

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you are resorting to the Holocaust then it suggests you are struggling to justify your pov

Please learn to read, LT. It would make life so much easier for those of us who's posts you constantly misrepresent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Please learn to read, LT. It would make life so much easier for those of us who's posts you constantly misrepresent.

"If the holocaust was happening today, I'd love to see what our anti-asylum seeker brigade would be saying."

i did read and i was dissapointed that you used to holocaust in your extreme left argument