[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LukeB

He won't unfortunately because it's always one rule for overpaid politicians who are constantly breaking the rules and another rule for the public. Kay Burley has been suspended for her rule break. It's not really hard for people to use zoom is it.

No Luke it's not hard at all, I agree.

Are these actual in person meetings really necessary.
No, of course not.

Examples have to be set.
Good grief even Patel is indicating he broke the ruling guidelines.

[bots]

i place it similarly to receiving a speeding ticket, i dont think its a sacking offence. Its not like the mp on the train who was tested positive for covid and then knowingly travelled. Nothing happened to her, not even a fine

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Such hideous hypocrisy, He should be sacked from the Tory party but he won't be, Tories don't care much about hypocrites among their own ranks, sadly.

Originally Posted by DouglasS

Don’t act like it’s a Tory thing always, why are you always bringing sides/politics into every debate?

Yeah, Dezzy, why bring politics into a debate about an MP breaking covid rules set by the government.

[Kizzy]

And then people wonder why the public balk at being asked to stay away from their family and friends...
When you see lawmakers breaking rules people are bound to ask ..what's the point?!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And then people wonder why the public balk at being asked to stay away from their family and friends...
When you see lawmakers breaking rules people are bound to ask ..what's the point?!

Are you going to start hugging your Mum off the back of it? No you are not

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it was a christmas piss up Arista and we all know it

Why is it not Front Page?


As it was a Legit Business Meeting
permitted under the rules.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Are you going to start hugging your Mum off the back of it? No you are not

What fuzzy logic is this?...
I mention that seeing an MP break rules may send a message to some that the rules are bendable at best and worthless at worst, and that means I'm going to hug my mum?
At least atempt some context.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What fuzzy logic is this?...
I mention that seeing an MP break rules may send a message to some that the rules are bendable at best and worthless at worst, and that means I'm going to hug my mum?
At least atempt some context.

No context? Will you bend the rules and hug your Mum because of others bending the rules ..yes or no?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And then people wonder why the public balk at being asked to stay away from their family and friends...
When you see lawmakers breaking rules people are bound to ask ..what's the point?!

+100

exactly, they lose any credibility so any politician who breaks these rules should be sacked since public will no longer believe them if they don't obey the rules themselves

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No context? Will you bend the rules and hug your Mum because of others bending the rules ..yes or no?

Again, maintain perspective. .. the issue is meeting in groups. That was the comparison I made, please don't use my post to suggest anyone could or should hug their elderly relatives, I was quite clear how in my opinion, his actions may have influenced others to break rules on meeting others in or out of lock down . Not me, but others.

If you don't agree that's fine

[Withano]

Imagine voting for the Tories and then feeling the need to defend your choice even when presented with information such as this

[Kizzy]

Dear tory... there's 700million in ppe in shipping containers lost in farmers fields, theres a 10 mile long truck centipede and we haven't even left the EU yet, the drug we need to save lives from covid is being made in Belgium how do we get it here? ...

(Tory voters)
Coooorrrbbbyyynnnnn!!!!!

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No context? Will you bend the rules and hug your Mum because of others bending the rules ..yes or no?

I think kizzy means other people will likely break the rules due to a terrible example set by MPs , which I think is already happening . Of course some of us will follow guidelines ,but other people will have a selfish attitude .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I think kizzy means other people will likely break the rules due to a terrible example set by MPs , which I think is already happening . Of course some of us will follow guidelines ,but other people will have a selfish attitude .

Don’t you think those people will break guidelines whatever happens...there are more MPs of all parties sticking to the rules than breaking them it’s just an excuse for the weak minded tbh

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Imagine voting for the Tories and then feeling the need to defend your choice even when presented with information such as this

I have never voted Tory so that doesn’t apply in my case

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Don’t you think those people will break guidelines whatever happens...there are more MPs of all parties sticking to the rules than breaking them it’s just an excuse for the weak minded tbh

Well yeah you'll always get people who don't like being told what to do / who hate following rules, but it's still hypocritical when stories like this breakout .

And same goes for people like Rita ora etc who think they can do what they want ,and then say "oops sorry" afterwards like it's ok .

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I think kizzy means other people will likely break the rules due to a terrible example set by MPs , which I think is already happening . Of course some of us will follow guidelines ,but other people will have a selfish attitude .

She knows what I mean we've had this conversation before across other threads in relation to MPS and advisors.
I've explained it well enough. But thanks