[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You've been told many times why people don't pay heed to your gossip rags and speculative articles, reading glossy magazines and tabloids is not research.

If it makes you feel better to think so, I understand.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

I didn't trawl through anything, you're not that important. I happened across it when I was reading another thread earlier for a post I made about Tom Bradby.

So, I point out that I'm not mind reading, but reading your posts and then you turn up a post from months ago and try to make out that despite the fact it's obviously a joke, that I'm being deadly serious and when I point that out, you try to tell me I'm not important to you even though you made a note of that post in the first place, for what? A chance to try to use it as a trump card and flop at doing so?

Your actions belittle your words. Now if you've stopped acting like a child and lashing out because I'm simply better at this, than you are, let's get back to the topic.

[jet]

It's snowing! Off I go for a walk...behave yourselves now....

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

If it makes you feel better to think so, I understand.

'I have nothing to say but I can't admit that so I'm going to post a nothing response and be patronising despite the fact that I've been on the backfoot this whole exchange'.

If you want an out, just say so. No need for pageantry.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So, I point out that I'm not mind reading, but reading your posts and then you turn up a post from months ago and try to make out that despite the fact it's obviously a joke, that I'm being deadly serious and when I point that out, you try to tell me I'm not important to you even though you made a note of that post in the first place, for what? A chance to try to use it as a trump card and flop at doing so?

Your actions belittle your words. Now if you've stopped acting like a child and lashing out because I'm simply better at this, than you are, let's get back to the topic.

Oh Dezzy, you so have to be right and top all the time. It's quite sad.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

Oh Dezzy, you so have to be right and top all the time. It's quite sad.

If I was wrong, it wouldn't be hard to prove so. You wouldn't have to resort to insults because you would be able to operate on even footing to me.

If I'm wrong, prove me wrong, no point blaming me if you can't come up with a good response. Again, childish behaviour.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'Watch this one thing and then disregard everything else like we have!'

Nope, I don't need to watch a documentary from one perspective to comment on the media coverage of these two and how Meghan's treatment compares to Kate's for the same behaviours.

Even in this thread, we saw an article posted that contained little to no facts but pure speculation to force a narrative that wasn't supported by anything resembling evidence. That's the same thing for all the coverage that Meghan has. It's just endless fiction meant to rile up the gullible and deeply foolish that lack the critical thinking to see it for what it is. People cling to gossip and speculation because they think it justifies their hate.

So the one thing you can watch to try and understand why her popularity went downhill fast...the true testament with words falling out of their own mouths...its not fiction...its not gossip...it justifies why some people dislike her.
Its called burying your head in the sand.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Yes you've posted many times what notorious blabbermouth Lizzie Cundy had to say to the press for a pay cheque and it never sounds anymore reliable no matter how you word it.

The Lizzie Cundy stuff will never get old. Pissing myself.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nope, why would I? I've always said that I don't care about this couple, it's the obvious bigotry aimed at them that bothers me.

because is key to why people suddenly sat up and began to see what was going on, prior to that there were tabloid headlines and snippets but I think most people dismissed them as gossip especially the rift with William

this is where is was confirmed by the couple themselves against a backdrop of unimaginable poverty and abuse of females

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

I happened across it

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

So the one thing you can watch to try and understand why her popularity went downhill fast...the true testament with words falling out of their own mouths...its not fiction...its not gossip...it justifies why some people dislike her.
Its called burying your head in the sand.

I don't need to watch it, I understand why people use it as a reason to hate her. She got emotional about finding things hard and people thought that she had no reason to find things hard because of who she is.

None of it really relates to my arguments about how the media presents them, it just shows that people think that the rich can't suffer mental health issues or struggle with parenthood because money apparently fixes everything.

Trying to make out I'm burying my head in the sand won't work, it just makes you look like you're looking for reasons to invalidate my views without putting any effort into it. 'If you haven't watched something I want you to watch then all your views on the subject don't matter!' A weak way of trying to win a discussion.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

because is key to why people suddenly sat up and began to see what was going on, prior to that there were tabloid headlines and snippets but I think most people dismissed them as gossip especially the rift with William

this is where is was confirmed by the couple themselves against a backdrop of unimaginable poverty and abuse of females

It is not key to the reason why I'm opposed to their treatment though, you would have to deny reality to make out that Meghan and Kate got different reactions when they were both engaging in the same behaviours.

It's just a way of you trying to discount my views without with effort, like I said to Rustic.

[Ammi]

...I have seen the South Africa interview and it’s always heartbreaking to see someone struggling in the way Meghan obviously was...obviously that’s my own interpretation and how I saw it...but interestingly, I was reading an Article from a New Zealand magazine so more neutral/unbias as the uk media has always been, if you like ...the negative U.K. media/social media attention given to Meghan began a lot earlier than their SA visit and it built and it built in intensity, according to timelines...and actually, it seems that there was more warmth toward her at the time of and just following the SA interview when it was realised how the extremity of it all was impacting her and her mental welfare...her more popular time in actuality we could say....and real support for her but sadly it didn’t last because the tabloid media are very relentless...



As clips of Meghan's heartbreaking confession that she "wasn't doing OK" surfaced on social media, a viral hashtag called #WeLoveYouMeghan started trending on Twitter, with fans rallying around the royals.
"If you're watching #HarryandMeghan right now and still have something negative to say, you don't have a heart," one fan wrote.
Another said: "I like them even more after watching... didn't think that was possible. Substance & style. An amazing couple. They're authentically themselves."

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

because is key to why people suddenly sat up and began to see what was going on, prior to that there were tabloid headlines and snippets but I think most people dismissed them as gossip especially the rift with William

this is where is was confirmed by the couple themselves against a backdrop of unimaginable poverty and abuse of females

Hold on, let's not reframe the hate they receive entirely around the African Journey documentary, because that's flat out false.

A quick search of this very forum proves those kinds of threads LONG predate that documentary.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Hold on, let's not reframe the hate they receive entirely around the African Journey documentary, because that's flat out false.

A quick search of this very forum proves those kinds of threads LONG predate that documentary.

...the timelines of how she was treated by the U.K. media seem to be well documented from world views as well, so no bias applied as U.K. articles appear to have...and actually, the SA visit and her interview that was so raw and emotional marked a surge in her popularity and support ...sadly not long lasting ...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Hold on, let's not reframe the hate they receive entirely around the African Journey documentary, because that's flat out false.

A quick search of this very forum proves those kinds of threads LONG predate that documentary.

I am taking about my own experience and the experience of a few forum members who said the same, only you appear to be able to talk for everyone

maybe quote the threads, lets see who said what

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I am taking about my own experience and the experience of a few forum members who said the same, only you appear to be able to talk for everyone

maybe quote the threads, lets see who said what

Who have I spoken for?

You're the one claiming the "experience of a few forum members".

I'm simply pointing out the threads on this forum date back further than the broadcast of that documentary. Clear to anyone who cares to actually look.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Who have I spoken for?

You're the one claiming the "experience of a few forum members".

I'm simply pointing out the threads on this forum date back further than the broadcast of that documentary. Clear to anyone who cares to actually look.

Please quote them so we can all have a look see ta

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Please quote them so we can all have a look see ta

Right, so you can make claims that the documentary changed things for everyone on the forum, because you say so.

But I have to search the forum for you?

You have hands, use them. The documentary aired October 2019 to save you the hard work of googling for yourself too.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Right, so you can make claims that the documentary changed things for everyone on the forum, because you say so.

But I have to search the forum for you?

You have hands, use them. The documentary aired October 2019 to save you the hard work of googling for yourself too.

this is what I said

I am taking about my own experience and the experience of a few forum members who said the same

why should you produce evidence? because you need to back up your claims, I don't need to do that

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...the timelines of how she was treated by the U.K. media seem to be well documented from world views as well, so no bias applied as U.K. articles appear to have...and actually, the SA and her interview that was so raw and emotional marked a surge in her popularity and support ...sadly not long lasting ...

Yep, whilst it was no doubt a huge opportunity for people to questionably spit even more venom at two people who were mentally struggling. It was also the point a lot of people who weren't particularly interested in them before (myself included) took notice of how they were being treated and refused to tolerate it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

this is what I said

I am taking about my own experience and the experience of a few forum members who said the same

why should you produce evidence? because you need to back up your claims, I don't need to do that

Back up my claims that there's threads on this forum full of hate for Meghan Markle that predate the documentary? This is the forum.

You're. on. the. forum. Go look Cherie, I have full confidence in you.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...the timelines of how she was treated by the U.K. media seem to be well documented from world views as well, so no bias applied as U.K. articles appear to have...and actually, the SA visit and her interview that was so raw and emotional marked a surge in her popularity and support ...sadly not long lasting ...

The exact opposite to what I seen and read at the time. Polls at the time saw her drop dramatically in popularity after the SA interview - Harry's popularity didn't just then even though he spoke out about his difficulties with William, though he has dropped way down currently.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

this is what I said

I am taking about my own experience and the experience of a few forum members who said the same

why should you produce evidence? because you need to back up your claims, I don't need to do that

Its called 'Putting your money where your mouth is'....

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I have seen the South Africa interview and it’s always heartbreaking to see someone struggling in the way Meghan obviously was...obviously that’s my own interpretation and how I saw it...but interestingly, I was reading an Article from a New Zealand magazine so more neutral/unbias as the uk media has always been, if you like ...the negative U.K. media/social media attention given to Meghan began a lot earlier than their SA visit and it built and it built in intensity, according to timelines...and actually, it seems that there was more warmth toward her at the time of and just following the SA interview when it was realised how the extremity of it all was impacting her and her mental welfare...her more popular time in actuality we could say....and real support for her but sadly it didn’t last because the tabloid media are very relentless...



As clips of Meghan's heartbreaking confession that she "wasn't doing OK" surfaced on social media, a viral hashtag called #WeLoveYouMeghan started trending on Twitter, with fans rallying around the royals.
"If you're watching #HarryandMeghan right now and still have something negative to say, you don't have a heart," one fan wrote.
Another said: "I like them even more after watching... didn't think that was possible. Substance & style. An amazing couple. They're authentically themselves."

Magazines and social media stuff are looked down upon on here though as worthless (see previous posts upthread). Don't go by them myself much.