[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Are you saying she's LYING then.
Or this just because it's about a Johnson.

No one's said it's right.
She says it happened.
All arista and I have said is we doubt she'd make this up..
Or the other Lady accusing him too.

So you'd rather all discount her events because it's Johnson's Dad.

I never said that Joey did I ? If its true then he deserves to be found out but all I was saying was how people are already judging him but its wrong to judge others, you see THIS is why i dont bother in these threads anymore, arista has already called him a dirty old sod, he maybe but we dont really know that yet do we ? No one said she was lying either but 20 years !! , Its nothing to do with him or the PM,lol its to do with hypocrisy .If he is guilty he can then be judged.imo.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I never said that Joey did I ? If its true then he deserves to be found out but all I was saying was how people are already judging him but its wrong to judge others, you see THIS is why i dont bother in these threads anymore, arista has already called him a dirty old sod, he maybe but we dont really know that yet do we ? No one said she was lying either but 20 years !! , Its nothing to do with him or the PM,lol its to do with hypocrisy .If he is guilty he can then be judged.imo.

This is as I said, why Women and also men don't come forward because the doubt is always put on them.

Arista always uses strong terms, he has since I joined here, he's no different.

All he's said is he doubts they'd make this up.
Sorry arista I shouldn't be talking for you.

Who's judging him though as you state.
There's only 3 of us who have accepted she could be right.

As for him not remembering after 20 years, he's a pretty sharp minded guy, he can recall in interviews things farther back then 18 years.

Of course it has to be investigated and looked into.
However it shouldn't be dismissed and nor should doubt be placed on these Ladies coming forward with these serious accusations either.
It isn't an easy thing for them to do and especially for Caroline being a Con backbencher too.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I never said that Joey did I ? If its true then he deserves to be found out but all I was saying was how people are already judging him but its wrong to judge others, you see THIS is why i dont bother in these threads anymore, arista has already called him a dirty old sod, he maybe but we dont really know that yet do we ? No one said she was lying either but 20 years !! , Its nothing to do with him or the PM,lol its to do with hypocrisy .If he is guilty he can then be judged.imo.

What If there's no evidence to prove he's innocent either , I don't know if it's true or not to be honest .

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What If there's no evidence to prove he's innocent either , I don't know if it's true or not to be honest .

Well i think you and i know only too well Goldheart how someone is guilty by media, even though they were proved innocent

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well i think you and i know only too well Goldheart how someone is guilty by media, even though they were proved innocent

Yeah I know once something has been said ,it can follow them around and even ruin careers. But we might never know for sure whether he's guilty or not .