[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't really see the issue with saying an item of clothing resembles something else - wearing a grey trenchcoat might make you look like a detective, a tailcoat might make you look like a magician, apparently my favourite beanie makes me look like a malformed penis, and burkas look like letterboxes

Even when it's deragatory?

You don't see how how being called a letter box because you wear a burka wrong?

However none of those examples you just gave are deragatory apart from the burka one.

So you're basically saying we can call people what we want as long as it's factually correct? We can go around calling people fat and disabled because it's factually correct? Even though it may cause extreme offence.

Absolutely ridiculous attitude you have.

[bots]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Even when it's deragatory?

You don't see how how being called a letter box because you wear a burka wrong?

However none of those examples you just gave are deragatory apart from the burka one.

So you're basically saying we can call people what we want as long as it's factually correct? We can go around calling people fat and disabled because it's factually correct? Even though it may cause extreme offence.

Absolutely ridiculous attitude you have.

it's still not against the law to say a burka looks like a letter box, and that is the point isn't it

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's still not against the law to say a burka looks like a letter box, and that is the point isn't it

No it's not the point. What has the law got to do with it?

On about his character.

[bots]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

No it's not the point. What has the law got to do with it?

On about his character.

its got everything to do with it, it's called free speech. People are allowed to be as colourful or controversial as they want provided it is not breaking the law

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

its got everything to do with it, it's called free speech. People are allowed to be as colourful or controversial as they want provided it is not breaking the law

Free speech does not allow comments which can cause alarm and distress as that is a criminal offence or hate crime.

Regardless, it doesn't make it right whether it breaks the law or not.

It's called being a nice person

Which you seem to find hard to grab the concept using you can say what you like under the guise of 'free speech'

[ThomasC]

PACE;

F14AIntentional harassment, alarm or distress.
(1)A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he—
(a)uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or
(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,

So actually it could well indeed be breaking the law and free speech will not always apply

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Free speech does not allow comments which can cause alarm and distress as that is a criminal offence or hate crime.

Regardless, it doesn't make it right whether it breaks the law or not.

It's called being a nice person

Which you seem to find hard to grab the concept using you can say what you like under the guise of 'free speech'

People say nuns look like penguins, no one cares

Comparisons are made every day of the week

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Cherie

People say nuns look like penguins, no one cares

Comparisons are made every day of the week

It doesn't make it right though, does it?

And I can't believe people are defending it. Unbelievable

And I've never heard anyone say nuns look like penguins.

[ThomasC]

And you say no one cares.

What you mean, the people it doesn't affect?

Yeah well that's easy to say that, isn't it?

[ThomasC]

Unless you're a nun then I do apologise

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

It doesn't make it right though, does it?

And I can't believe people are defending it. Unbelievable

And I've never heard anyone say nuns look like penguins.

Not sting its right but its not the end of the world either

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not sting its right but its not the end of the world either

Not to you it's not, but people have feelings and you know how the saying goes... If you've got nothing nice to say then don't say anything.

[arista]

[bots]

i've got my payments locked in now for a couple of years

[Beso]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

No I'm not saying that, but I'm saying he made that comment.

Do you see him having done anything wrong? Like not just a slight mistake either

He made the comment in defense of women being forced to wear the burka.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He made the comment in defense of women being forced to wear the burka.

That’s kinda my recollection as well ... it’s a bit of a vague memory


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[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Large Text
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Inside of Fridays Manchester Evening Newspaper

Spoiler:

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i've got my payments locked in now for a couple of years

But, what if they go Bankrupt?


It is not so clear ahead,
with respect.

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

But, what if they go Bankrupt?


It is not so clear ahead,
with respect.

they are the biggest firms, and they already bought the energy on the futures market, so i'm not worried on that front at all

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

That’s headline is disgraceful .

The whole world is suffering because of Covid ..

Nobody could have done anything to “level things up” over the last two years

That’s just ridiculous .


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[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That’s headline is disgraceful .

The whole world is suffering because of Covid ..

Nobody could have done anything to “level things up” over the last two years

That’s just ridiculous .


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We have Labour Mayor who is a media *****. Burnham was always going to jump all over it and pass his failings on to central Government. Just like he did over the controversial Green Air Zone that he was trying to pass as a stealth congestion charge. The only council in the UK to try to bring in the charges but still tried to blame the Gov! The MEN always backs him....his PR team is pretty robust

[bots]

New education minister Andrea Jenkyns says she raised her middle finger to a crowd outside Downing Street as a response to a "baying mob".

Social media footage showed the MP gesturing shortly before Boris Johnson's resignation.

Explaining her actions, she said a group outside the gates were "insulting MPs... as is sadly all too common".

She said she should have shown more composure "but is only human".

Ms Jenkyns said she had gone to Downing Street to watch the prime minister's resignation speech on Thursday afternoon.

After a morning marked by increasing numbers of resignations from government, No 10 announced that Boris Johnson would be standing down.

Crowds celebrating his imminent departure then gathered in the area.

Ms Jenkyns was also heard to shout as she left Downing Street following Mr Johnson's speech.

In videos recorded of her leaving, she told the crowd: "He who laughs last, laughs loudest. Wait and see."

In a statement on Twitter, Ms Jenkyns said she had received "huge amounts of abuse from some of the people who were there over the years".

She added: "I have also had seven death threats in the last four years. Two of which have been in recent weeks and are currently being investigated by the police, I had reached the end of my tether.

"I responded and stood up for myself. Just why should anyone have to put up with this kind of treatment."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62105688

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Good to see boris has created a fine cabinet