[Liam-]

You’re not allowed to have the sex change operation if you’re under 18 anyway, unless you go to one of these dodgy places that has no rules for things like that

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You’re not allowed to have the sex change operation if you’re under 18 anyway, unless you go to one of these dodgy places that has no rules for things like that

But we both know that there are extremist groups trying to lower the age of when the operation can be performed.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But we both know that there are extremist groups trying to lower the age of when the operation can be performed.

Are there? I haven’t seen anyone advocate for the surgery age being dropped, but let’s say it was dropped to 16, so what? You’re legally allowed to consent to surgeries at that age and nobody is just given a sex change operation at the drop of a hat, it takes years of therapy and consultations to make sure someone is truly ready for it, it’s not like going to the apple shop and buying a phone like people pretend it is to push their agenda

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Are there? I haven’t seen anyone advocate for the surgery age being dropped, but let’s say it was dropped to 16, so what? You’re legally allowed to consent to surgeries at that age and nobody is just given a sex change operation at the drop of a hat, it takes years of therapy and consultations to make sure someone is truly ready for it, it’s not like going to the apple shop and buying a phone like people pretend it is to push their agenda

How do you feel about kids aged 5 to 12 being called 'Transgender' ? ,When they're still children? . I don't know about you ..but I think most children that age want to be a marvel superhero or pepper pig or something , they're not thinking about being born as the wrong gender.

As for the 16 being legal age , it's different for a 16 year old to say they feel like a different gender, than to physically go through hormones and surgery. Don't you understand that it's a life altering thing? . I still think a 16 year old should wait till they're 18 before fully transitioning.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

How do you feel about kids aged 5 to 12 being called 'Transgender' ? ,When they're still children? . I don't know about you ..but I think most children that age want to be a marvel superhero or pepper pig or something , they're not thinking about being born as the wrong gender.

As for the 16 being legal age , it's different for a 16 year old to say they feel like a different gender, than to physically go through hormones and surgery. Don't you understand that it's a life altering thing? . I still think a 16 year old should wait till they're 18 before fully transitioning.

Well you’ve just answered your own question there haven’t you ‘most children aren’t thinking about being born as the wrong gender’ there are some children who do feel the affects or being transgender that young, how do I feel about them being called transgender? I’m not sure, it could be a bit early to stick a definitive label on it, do I think it’s any more weird than young children being called things like ‘future lady killer’ or heartbreakers? Or people saying that kids will have to be beating people off with a stick when they’re older? That’s a lot weirder and is blatant sexualising it’s children, but the majority of people don’t seem to have a problem with that.

Of course it’s a life altering thing, that’s the whole point and as long as someone is legal age to consent to a surgery and medication and they fully understand the risks and the benefits and all potential outcomes it’s not up to anybody else to tell them what they can and can’t do with their bodies, I thought we were against policing people’s autonomy?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Well you’ve just answered your own question there haven’t you ‘most children aren’t thinking about being born as the wrong gender’ there are some children who do feel the affects or being transgender that young, how do I feel about them being called transgender? I’m not sure, it could be a bit early to stick a definitive label on it, do I think it’s any more weird than young children being called things like ‘future lady killer’ or heartbreakers? Or people saying that kids will have to be beating people off with a stick when they’re older? That’s a lot weirder and is blatant sexualising it’s children, but the majority of people don’t seem to have a problem with that.

Of course it’s a life altering thing, that’s the whole point and as long as someone is legal age to consent to a surgery and medication and they fully understand the risks and the benefits and all potential outcomes it’s not up to anybody else to tell them what they can and can’t do with their bodies, I thought we were against policing people’s autonomy?

I think GoldHeart's point (and I agree with her) is that 16 year olds aren't mature enough to fully understand the risks and benefits, regardless of what the UK law says.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think GoldHeart's point (and I agree with her) is that 16 year olds aren't mature enough to fully understand the risks and benefits, regardless of what the UK law says.

Exactly


And whether people want to admit it or not ,there is little kids out there being called "Transgender", because it's being forced / pushed on them . Like I said 16 isn't as bad as 5 ,but a 16 year old might still change their mind &..... not actually want to go through the medically procedure of transitioning.