[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Arista, the west is already at war with russia, we just don't have troops in the arena yet, doesn't mean we are not at war

the west their own fault, should've just not interfered

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

the west their own fault, should've just not interfered

The Allies shouldn't have liberated the Netherlands in 1944. Shouldn't have interfered and just left you all to it, maybe?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Allies shouldn't have liberated the Netherlands in 1944. Shouldn't have interfered and just left you all to it, maybe?

this is completely different to WW2 though


be more grateful towards Russia, they pretty much saved our arses from nazi germany whereas the ''allied forces'' kinda struggled crossing the german border, they were already in berlin

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

this is completely different to WW2 though


be more grateful towards Russia, they pretty much saved our arses from nazi germany whereas the ''allied forces'' kinda struggled crossing the german border, they were already in berlin

No,
Russia was the other side of Europe
it was Americans that saved your nation.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

this is completely different to WW2 though


be more grateful towards Russia, they pretty much saved our arses from nazi germany whereas the ''allied forces'' kinda struggled crossing the german border, they were already in berlin

Let's not forget the secret pact between USSR and the Nazis at the start of the war and the fact that Stalin killed more people than Hitler.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Let's not forget the secret pact between USSR and the Nazis at the start of the war and the fact that Stalin killed more people than Hitler.

Stalin if anything trusted Hitler too much and would never have gone to war if Germany hadn't started pushing into the USSR... he was happy for Hitler to have all of Western Europe. In fact I believe the reason so many Russians ended up dead was because Stalin was slow in responding to intelligence that Hitler intended to push into the USSR, probably because he realised it was a strategic disaster for Germany so they'd never do it, but they did, and he was right, splitting the German front weakened them dramatically. Basically we're lucky that Stalin was right that Germany splitting their front was a terrible idea, and lucky that he was wrong about Hitler not actually trying to do it.

But ideologically? Stalin was all for Germany chewing up Europe and then splitting some of the land with the USSR.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Stalin if anything trusted Hitler too much and would never have gone to war if Germany hadn't started pushing into the USSR... he was happy for Hitler to have all of Western Europe. In fact I believe the reason so many Russians ended up dead was because Stalin was slow in responding to intelligence that Hitler intended to push into the USSR, probably because he realised it was a strategic disaster for Germany so they'd never do it, but they did, and he was right, splitting the German front weakened them dramatically. Basically we're lucky that Stalin was right that Germany splitting their front was a terrible idea, and lucky that he was wrong about Hitler not actually trying to do it.

But ideologically? Stalin was all for Germany chewing up Europe and then splitting some of the land with the USSR.

It's weird to think that in just the Twentieth Century, parts of Europe were under the boots of Fascism, Nazism, and Communism