[arista]

[Once the PSTN (Public Switched Telephone Network)
network is switched off in 2025 you will
no longer be able to make phone calls
via landline with no internet connection.]

28 Sept 2022



VirginMedia & BT is now closing many Copper phone lines
and giving an adapter
via the internet to get the Landline working


This is going to be a danger
to some old folk who only have a Landline
and no internet


Landline phone works in a power cut.
That will be lost
As a Power Cuts Stop, the Internet

[user104658]

It's outdated tech, my landline doesn't work "directly" since I last switched provider, you have to plug a phone into the router. Although, I don't bother, as I don't use landline calls at all.

In terms of powercuts... you can still make calls via a mobile phone in a power cut. If it's wider scale you sometimes lose 3/4/5g but usually not calls and texts. As for the "not everyone has a mobile" argument ... ... for those who are massively concerned about their granny in a powercut, you can get a basic mobile for £10.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's outdated tech, my landline doesn't work "directly" since I last switched provider, you have to plug a phone into the router. Although, I don't bother, as I don't use landline calls at all.

In terms of powercuts... you can still make calls via a mobile phone in a power cut. If it's wider scale you sometimes lose 3/4/5g but usually not calls and texts. As for the "not everyone has a mobile" argument ... ... for those who are massively concerned about their granny in a powercut, you can get a basic mobile for £10.

It's outdated tech,

TS
not to an old person
who has NO Internet


As for getting Granny a Mobile,
fine

But what about the old folks
with no family

This is why the PM
is ignoring this

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

It's outdated tech,

TS
not to an old person
who has NO Internet


As for getting Granny a Mobile,
fine

But what about the old folks
with no family

This is why the PM
is ignoring this

I would imagine, phone companies (for those who don't really want internet) will simply give out very basic "adapter" routers that phones will plug into for the same price as current basic line rental. Maybe even with a very basic limited internet connection wirelessly.

I remember my mum (who couldn't even use a computer) switching from BT to TalkTalk because it was cheaper, must have been a good 15 years ago, and as part of their most basic package (cheaper then just BT line rental) it included a router with 4mb broadband/wireless. She never used it once but it was handy when visiting .

[arista]

"I would imagine, phone companies "


You are So Wrong TS

USA Owned Virgin Media
has left some folks with no landline
if you phone their (old persons) number,
it is engaged 24/7 to outside callers/

No good for many old people
waiting for the Doctor to phone

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's outdated tech, my landline doesn't work "directly" since I last switched provider, you have to plug a phone into the router. Although, I don't bother, as I don't use landline calls at all.

In terms of powercuts... you can still make calls via a mobile phone in a power cut. If it's wider scale you sometimes lose 3/4/5g but usually not calls and texts. As for the "not everyone has a mobile" argument ... ... for those who are massively concerned about their granny in a powercut, you can get a basic mobile for £10.

I haven't used a landline for 9 years. I remember the day I stopped using the phone in our hallway. It stopped working so I was just about to buy a new landline phone, when I thought, what a waste of money.

I'll only use the mobile. And of course making calls from mobiles is so much cheaper now. My mobile phone bill per month is just £6.00 per month, unlimited calls and texts.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

"I would imagine, phone companies "


You are So Wrong TS

USA Owned Virgin Media
has left some folks with no landline
if you phone their (old persons) number,
it is engaged 24/7 to outside callers/

No good for many old people
waiting for the Doctor to phone

It seems highly unlikely that this happened with no prior warning

[bots]

most people in the uk have given up their copper land lines. BT is the only consumer telecoms company that still supports copper. There is no equipment at telephone exchanges to support copper any more. Copper wire for communications is technology from 60 years ago

[user104658]

Copper is worth good money too - they should rip it all up .

[arista]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It seems highly unlikely that this happened with no prior warning

No
I Know one old person


NO Email No Letter


No warning


Bugger all from
USA Owned Virgin Media

Liberty Global USA own Virgin Media

[arista]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Copper is worth good money too - they should rip it all up .

They will not
as it costs to dig up the road


USA Owned Virgin Media
are all about Cutting UK Costs

[arista]

Its no good Old Fella
Virgin Media has deleted your landline


[Concerns over older and vulnerable households
which are not online,
do not use a mobile phone or live
in a rural area with poor connectivity being
left behind]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ggle-cope.html

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

No
I Know one old person


NO Email No Letter

How would they know if they got an email or not

[arista]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

How would they know if they got an email or not

He has a Computer
with a Virgin Router


So it would be easy for USA Owned Virgin Media
to send a Email.


His Virgin Media Phone line has been dead for 4 days


So TS
should the regional manager
get sacked?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

He has a Computer
with a Virgin Router


So it would be easy for USA Owned Virgin Media
to send a Email.


His Virgin Media Phone line has been dead for 4 days


So TS
should the regional manager
get sacked?

I thought the problem was for people who couldn't plug in a VOIP phone on their router! If he has the internet where is the issue...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I thought the problem was for people who couldn't plug in a VOIP phone on their router! If he has the internet where is the issue...

The Problem
is USA Owned Virgin Media


Have not contacted him
or posted the Adapter


This is Big Companies
not doing a proper job.


I would Sack
the Regional Virgin Media Manager

[arista]

A Virgin Engineer
Visited the old fella's home
Fitted a new connection from the wall copper small virgin box
and then wired into his router.

Now his Landline is working again,
so he is happy


Around 30mins to finish
he said

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

A Virgin Engineer
Visited the old fella's home
Fitted a new connection from the wall copper small virgin box
and then wired into his router.

Now his Landline is working again,
so he is happy


Around 30mins to finish
he said

Well we're very happy for your old fella friend, arista, and hope he is enjoying his new landline

[bots]

and then at some point in the next couple of years it will stop working permanently

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

and then at some point in the next couple of years it will stop working permanently

We should be shifting away from copper to full fibre ASAP but to be honest, I think if they can solve latency issues we're not all that far off going completely cable-free for domestic internet use.

[Crimson Dynamo]

best thing i ever did was binning the landline

[arista]

Yes I assume
that USA owned Virgin Media are saving money.

Using the old wired small Virgin box on his wall
with a new wire to his Router Hub
and his 3 Phones plugged into an adapter
hanging out the top of his hub.

Problem for that, USA owned Virgin Media
is a Virgin engineer has to go into so many homes
to wire it all up