[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

TS. Judge, jury and executioner.

I'm still going to wait to hear the case as it unfolds rather than assume I already have the answer.

If there's not enough evidence to convict which there often isn't in sexual abuse cases, on balance of probabilities I personally still believe his MULTIPLE victims (entirely my right to do so) and personally hope to never have to see his smirking mug on screen again, and that he quietly retires.

If there is enough evidence to convict I hope he goes to prison.

So its not a case of "X should happen regardless" at all.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

If there's not enough evidence to convict which there often isn't in sexual abuse cases, on balance of probabilities I personally still believe his MULTIPLE victims (entirely my right to do so) and personally hope to never have to see his smirking mug on screen again, and that he quietly retires.

If there is enough evidence to convict I hope he goes to prison.

So its not a case of "X should happen regardless" at all.

So in future we could just assume everyone is guilty rather than assuming people's innocence like we're supposed to. Save all that time and money. Because you believe he's guilty he should be finished. I take it this stance will apply to everyone who is arrested and not just people you dislike personally.

Thank God you're not in the legal profession TS, I reckon your black cap would be threadbare after a month.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

So in future we could just assume everyone is guilty rather than assuming people's innocence like we're supposed to. Save all that time and money. Because you believe he's guilty he should be finished. I take it this stance will apply to everyone who is arrested and not just people you dislike personally.

Thank God you're not in the legal profession TS, I reckon your black cap would be threadbare after a month.

I find it far more concerning that you are in the legal profession and consistently demonstrate an inability or unwillingness to recognise that the letter of the law and personal opinion are entirely different and completely unrelated things.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I find it far more concerning that you are in the legal profession and consistently demonstrate an inability or unwillingness to recognise that the letter of the law and personal opinion are entirely different and completely unrelated things.

Wow, thanks for the professional assassination. Are we here discussing me and my legal career and whether or not YOU think I'm suitable. I'm not a solicitor, I'm not a barrister. My area is international law, as I think you probably know.

YOU have decided he's guilty before the trial and I'M guilty of not following the letter of the law??

Again, don't lecture me on a subject in which I'm highly qualified and which you've acquainted yourself with on the Internet. Who do you think you are?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Wow, thanks for the professional assassination. Are we here discussing me and my legal career and whether or not YOU think I'm suitable. I'm not a solicitor, I'm not a barrister. My area is international law, as I think you probably know.

YOU have decided he's guilty before the trial and I'M guilty of not following the letter of the law??

Again, don't lecture me on a subject in which I'm highly qualified and which you've acquainted yourself with on the Internet. Who do you think you are?

I think I'm a rank and file Tibb member debating **** on TiBB, just like you, arista and everyone else on this thread. I couldn't care less what your qualifications are or what you claim them to be, it's entirely irrelevant, that's sort of the point... So really, it's not about who I think I am, is it? It's that you think anything about your career matters one jot on this site. I know what you say you do and what you say your qualifications are. I don't actually know *one thing* about you. You might be a 65 year old pub landlord from Wales. It doesn't matter. I don't care.

*All* that matters on an anonymous Internet forums is our opinions. I have my opinion on Spacey, you have yours. I don't have a problem with you still stanning Spacey regardless of what he may or may not have done. You apparently have a problem with me having a negative opinion of him "if his poor behaviour isn't proven in court". I don't care what is or isn't proven about him in court, it doesn't affect my opinion of him or what I believe about him as an individual. Nor do your opinions affect that, any more than my opinions should affect yours.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I think I'm a rank and file Tibb member debating **** on TiBB, just like you, arista and everyone else on this thread. I couldn't care less what your qualifications are or what you claim them to be, it's entirely irrelevant, that's sort of the point... So really, it's not about who I think I am, is it? It's that you think anything about your career matters one jot on this site. I know what you say you do and what you say your qualifications are. I don't actually know *one thing* about you. You might be a 65 year old pub landlord from Wales. It doesn't matter. I don't care.

*All* that matters on an anonymous Internet forums is our opinions. I have my opinion on Spacey, you have yours. I don't have a problem with you still stanning Spacey regardless of what he may or may not have done. You apparently have a problem with me having a negative opinion of him "if his poor behaviour isn't proven in court". I don't care what is or isn't proven about him in court, it doesn't affect my opinion of him or what I believe about him as an individual. Nor do your opinions affect that, any more than my opinions should affect yours.

I couldn't care less about your opinion on Spacey. I care about your constant prodding. You brought up my career, as you often do, to ridicule me.

I've been on this forum coming up to 12 years, it'd be pretty impressive to have told lies all these years. Trust me, if I was making up a persona I'd have chosen something more interesting. But you don't know me. Fine, steer clear of me in future, I've had enough.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've been on this forum coming up to 12 years, it'd be pretty impressive to have told lies all these years. Trust me, if I was making up a persona I'd have chosen something more interesting. But you don't know me.

No Livia as usual in any thread involving court proceedings, you hinted at it via the back door;

Originally Posted by Livia

Thank God you're not in the legal profession TS, I reckon your black cap would be threadbare after a month.

No one here is daft or naive, it's boring when we all keep pretending that we are.

Fine, steer clear of me in future, I've had enough.

As ever you're free to ignore my posts or block them, I won't be steering clear because it's a discussion forum and I don't ignore posts to-order. If you post something I disagree with I'll quote it and say so. You don't have to respond.