[UserSince2005]

Paul thinking he is a good traitor.
He so full of himself.
Feck off.
making his legs shake in the coffin to try and show he was really scared was the pinnacle. what a joke.

And what the **** was that bow at the end as though he had done a good job. PATHETIC.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Paul thinking he is a good traitor.
He so full of himself.
Feck off.
making his legs shake in the coffin to try and show he was really scared was the pinnacle. what a joke.

And what the **** was that bow at the end as though he had done a good job. PATHETIC.

…he still took the credit when he didn’t survive the table…’Harry learnt brilliantly from me…’….ooop….

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…he still took the credit when he didn’t survive the table…’Harry learnt brilliantly from me…’….ooop….

what a bizarre person.

[Vanessa]

I want Harry to win.

[rusticgal]

So all of a sudden Harry turns on Paul who he has never mentioned before for obvious reasons….and now becomes a hero. It’s obvious to them all now that Paul turned on one of his own last night with Miles….and with a mere mention of Harry’s name Harry led the charge out of the blue on Paul…
I hope someone with an ounce of sense will see that Harry has acted in self defence…

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

So all of a sudden Harry turns on Paul who he has never mentioned before for obvious reasons….and now becomes a hero. It’s obvious to them all now that Paul turned on one of his own last night with Miles….and with a mere mention of Harry’s name Harry led the charge out of the blue on Paul…
I hope someone with an ounce of sense will see that Harry has acted in self defence…

And Harrys full detailed speech of Paul's whole game and then "thats why I think your a traitor".
How can any of the believe he just recalled it all there and then in a light bulb moment?
Harry can't have long left surely.
What a strange season this will be.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Dirty rats that Harry and Paul are, jumping on Miles at the first chance, fueling the drink theory. After he did the dirty work for them. Deserve nothing but to lose. Traitors shouldnt be allowed to out other traitors, im sure that actually a rule of the game when they take their oath at the start.

Technically they didn't out Miles, they "guessed" him under the guise of being Faithfuls.

On last night's episode, I thought that Paul took his elimination well tbf to him.

I do expect Andrew to be a bitter player if Harry betrays him in one of the upcoming Banishment Ceremonies.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

So all of a sudden Harry turns on Paul who he has never mentioned before for obvious reasons….and now becomes a hero. It’s obvious to them all now that Paul turned on one of his own last night with Miles….and with a mere mention of Harry’s name Harry led the charge out of the blue on Paul…
I hope someone with an ounce of sense will see that Harry has acted in self defence…

Paul did too much and got himself banished , as he was too cocky and behaved unbalanced, he sabotaged himself . I actually had a feeling 1 of them would turn on eachother after Miles left. I'm glad Miles defended himself and put the attention back onto Paul lmao.

Paul has created a monster in Harry, he's so full of himself now ... he's basically the new Paul , and the whole group thinks the sun shines out of Harry's backside which is cringy to see. Even Jaz who started to suspect Harry has started believing Harry is genuine just because he helped banish Paul, when logically they should be thinking it's a traitor just getting rid of another traitor so he can get further in the game and win it for himself. They saw exactly what happened with Ash & Miles , yet they still think Harry is a faithful ... oh dear completely clueless.

Them all calling Harry the 'Hero' is just making his head bigger, and he will continue to control the narrative, they all seem to be forgetting Jaz was the one who originally suspected Paul .... all of a sudden Harry is the one they're thanking , they're going to look so silly with egg on their faces when Harry not only gets to the final but actually steals the prize money from
under their noses .

Andrew has to just go along with it as he knows how dirty and sneaky Harry can be and he's scared he'll throw him under the bus. It seems to be textbook for traitors to try and get too greedy an too clever and over play their hand, which is exactly what Paul did.

I'm not liking how this is playing out , it's obvious Jaz is the next one to be banished which will honestly make me lose interest, as he was one of my favourite players. I would rather a boring annoying faithful goes like Charlotte or Zak or someone. Zak & Ross are dreadful players... one minute Zak is agreeing about Paul then he's ganging up on Jaz, the very same person he was confiding in . Then he has a bust up with Charlotte, but seem too scared to mention her at the round table .


Jaz speaking out has basically put a target on his back which is ridiculous , when other people like Charlotte , Ross ,Zak and Jasmine act weird and shifty themselves.

And Jaz was right about Evie etc, they say things outside but when it comes to the round table discussions, they stay quite. They're basically weak and scared.

Infact Charlie , Evie & the other blond woman (i forgot her name) seem to just merge into 1 person. They never contribute much to roundtables and they just hide in the background. I actually kept forgetting their names and mixing them up . So if one of them gets murdered it won't be a great big loss .

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Technically they didn't out Miles, they "guessed" him under the guise of being Faithfuls.

On last night's episode, I thought that Paul took his elimination well tbf to him.

I do expect Andrew to be a bitter player if Harry betrays him in one of the upcoming Banishment Ceremonies.

I hate how Jaz has a target on his back now , so once Harry & Andrew get Jaz banished, Harry will do whatever he can to win... and he will 100% throw Andrew under the bus and he'll enjoy it aswell . Look how happy he was when he banished Paul, Harry is a ruthless back stabbing snake. He sees everyone in the game as pawns , and he will only keep Andrew if nobody suspects Andrew.. otherwise he'll dispose of him like gabage.

Andrew will probably just stitch himself up further and get bitter and angry, if he gets any heat from Harry. It really looks like Harry is getting to the final , unless he really makes a clumsy error now and slips up . He's laughing to the bank with the prize money. And egg will be all over the faces of the remaining faithfuls.


Again the faithfuls are just clueless to the obvious facts and suspicious behaviour , if they suspected Paul from the whole dungeon situation... then why not vote him out from then. most of them continued kissing up to him, treating him like the golden boy. It feels like they're only catching traitors now after being hit over the head with very sharp evidence ie the poisonous chalice which would always come back to Miles after Diane's death and Paul over playing his hand and being too popular.

Jaz was always right about Paul , and he was onto Harry then he's backtracked now which is frustrating to see.


I don't think we'll ever get traitors being completely loyal with eachother, they always seem to get too greedy & selfish. I know it's a game... but the oath they take as a traitor, like they're working together as a team is hilarious.... when we all know it's a brutal game with every man for themselves. If i was a traitor i would never trust the other traitors , and i would take them down with me if they tried throwing me to the wolves LOL.

Kieran was probably the best traitor last year.... He played the game as best he could , but he was betrayed and the odds were stacked against him, so he dragged Wilf down with him in a spectacular way , which will always be ICONIC .

[LaLaLand]

The only ones left I actually wouldn't mind winning are Harry, Jaz and Zack. Would have included Ross too but he's just clueless sadly. He was utterly convinced Paul was a Faithful. Oops-

Sadly, if Harry's in the final that obviously means he's taking all the money but he'd have very much earnt it if he does, so c'est la vie. His takedown of Paul tonight was incredible. I was almost jumping up and down in my seat!

I don't think Andrew's gonna last very long now he's been recruited - he's too on edge.

The three blonde girls aren't really bringing anything, neither is Catherine except being quite snipey with people (especially Zack who she clearly has not liked for whatever reason since the beginning).

[Ammi]

…it’s all just so messy……it’s such a compelling watch but a lot of that is for the wrong reasons of having faithfuls who just don’t seem to be using their thinking and reliant on their emotions of who they trust in the group…

[Ammi]

…the Traitors…(…as in Harry and Paul…)…have really created a situation of ‘mistrust’ within the Traitors, that surely creates a weakness as we’re seeing now because Andrew has been recruited but didn’t have the trust from the beginning…but now there will be even less…I might be wrong but I can’t see Harry winning this as a lone wolf player…if he does then well done him…but I think that he must have surely drawn suspicion to himself when all have the faithfuls have time to absorb the events and how it’s all unfolding…the only time that a Traitor seems to be very involved in the finger pointing and takes the lead etc…is when they’re pointing that finger at another Traitor…and the others most surely begin to see that…it’s also showing the faithfuls that the traitors are not acting as a team, they’re acting alone and will quite easily throw another one to the table to save themselves…but Harry was too eager, I feel…that wasn’t a clever move at this time because now it’s left only two Traitors and one of those is a brand new recruit who is unpredictable to him atm…how can that be smart and shrewd etc…?…the Traitors corner is just becoming a no trust area and it needed t9 be the opposite until much later in the game…having said that, the faithfuls are a bit clueless also, so it might work out, hmmmmmmm….its such a messy season……

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I hate how Jaz has a target on his back now , so once Harry & Andrew get Jaz banished, Harry will do whatever he can to win... and he will 100% throw Andrew under the bus and he'll enjoy it aswell . Look how happy he was when he banished Paul, Harry is a ruthless back stabbing snake. He sees everyone in the game as pawns , and he will only keep Andrew if nobody suspects Andrew.. otherwise he'll dispose of him like gabage.

Andrew will probably just stitch himself up further and get bitter and angry, if he gets any heat from Harry. It really looks like Harry is getting to the final , unless he really makes a clumsy error now and slips up . He's laughing to the bank with the prize money. And egg will be all over the faces of the remaining faithfuls.


Again the faithfuls are just clueless to the obvious facts and suspicious behaviour , if they suspected Paul from the whole dungeon situation... then why not vote him out from then. most of them continued kissing up to him, treating him like the golden boy. It feels like they're only catching traitors now after being hit over the head with very sharp evidence ie the poisonous chalice which would always come back to Miles after Diane's death and Paul over playing his hand and being too popular.

Jaz was always right about Paul , and he was onto Harry then he's backtracked now which is frustrating to see.


I don't think we'll ever get traitors being completely loyal with eachother, they always seem to get too greedy & selfish. I know it's a game... but the oath they take as a traitor, like they're working together as a team is hilarious.... when we all know it's a brutal game with every man for themselves. If i was a traitor i would never trust the other traitors , and i would take them down with me if they tried throwing me to the wolves LOL.

Kieran was probably the best traitor last year.... He played the game as best he could , but he was betrayed and the odds were stacked against him, so he dragged Wilf down with him in a spectacular way , which will always be ICONIC .

Looking at it I think that the next four out will be Charlie, Zack, Jaz & Andrew, unless Harry slips up somehow.

I'm going to guess that Jaz or Zack are getting banished, as I think that Charlie will be murdered by the Traitors in the next episode.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

The only ones left I actually wouldn't mind winning are Harry, Jaz and Zack. Would have included Ross too but he's just clueless sadly. He was utterly convinced Paul was a Faithful. Oops-

Sadly, if Harry's in the final that obviously means he's taking all the money but he'd have very much earnt it if he does, so c'est la vie. His takedown of Paul tonight was incredible. I was almost jumping up and down in my seat!

I don't think Andrew's gonna last very long now he's been recruited - he's too on edge.

The three blonde girls aren't really bringing anything, neither is Catherine except being quite snipey with people (especially Zack who she clearly has not liked for whatever reason since the beginning).

Charlotte is so defensive and snappy, I actually wish they'd banish her, but weirdly they're keeping her in ,which makes no sense when she acts way more suspicious than Jaz . She is so negative and it rubs off on Jasmine aswell who I originally liked until she voted Anthony out and got a bad attitude .

Zak is just as bad as Ross , Zak kept talking privately with Jaz like he's on his side ,then he goes and points the finger at Jaz . Both Ross& Zak have turned everyone on Jaz which is mad. Ross was never a good player but he's gotten worse after his mum's departure.

Like I said I mixed the 3 blondes up ,they merge into one . They are coasting through by being boring and quiet and not stepping up , and I won't miss any of them much . Yeah I think Charlie will be murdered as well,but if they murder Zak then it will sadly go back back to Jaz as the guilty one ...so the traitors might have done that to be sneaky again.

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s all just so messy……it’s such a compelling watch but a lot of that is for the wrong reasons of having faithfuls who just don’t seem to be using their thinking and reliant on their
emotions of who they trust in the group…

It really is messy, the Traitors have caused alot of distrust among everyone. They keep voting eachother out yet nobody had clocked onto Harry betraying a fellow traitor,which has literally been the reoccurring pattern lmao , I'm still hoping he slips up ..as he's getting way too cocky. And he's loving having Andrew in his pocket ready to dispose of or when he
feels like it . Andrew will follow Harry's every lead to save
himself,but he's so nervous who knows.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Looking at it I think that the next four out will be Charlie, Zack, Jaz & Andrew, unless Harry slips up somehow.

I'm going to guess that Jaz or Zack are getting banished, as I think that Charlie will be murdered by the Traitors in the next episode.

Jaz is a goner next , I'm so annoyed as I wanted him in the final...he actually makes it interesting and seems a nice guy . And it's funny that he voted Andrew twice as now Andrew has been recruited,but he just doesn't know that . And understandably he suspects Ross...as Ross was awful throwing accusations his way whilst defending Paul to the highest ,he really is delusional that Ross .

And isn't it weird that Jaz and Zak can have private discussions and people jump on the bandwagon of " oh they must be Traitors plotting", yet Zak & Harry also have been whispering a bit ,and non of them have noticed the difference in Harry ,or the way he's been planting seeds.

Suddenly he was gunning for Paul and had this fire in his stomach to get him out . You would think they'd see through Harry ,but like I said he's become the new Paul ,and they all think he's perfect and good as gold ....wow i'm just waiting to see if he over plays his hand with greed and loses it all like what Paul did ,when he got too theatrical and arrogant.

Harry thinks and knows he controls the game , it's gone to his head . Let's see how long he keeps Andrew by his side . He will drop him off it will help him win.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

And Harrys full detailed speech of Paul's whole game and then "thats why I think your a traitor".
How can any of the believe he just recalled it all there and then in a light bulb moment?
Harry can't have long left surely.
What a strange season this will be.

Exactly...he never expressed any of his suspicions of Paul over the Dungeon thing or at any other time for obvious reasons...rattled by him starting to betray him and then suddenly this massive turn on him the night after Paul had betrayed another Traitor...

...why is no one seeing this now he is a hero...Jaz and Zach were the heroes but no one has listened to them.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Exactly...he never expressed any of his suspicions of Paul over the Dungeon thing or at any other time for obvious reasons...rattled by him starting to betray him and then suddenly this massive turn on him the night after Paul had betrayed another Traitor...

...why is no one seeing this now he is a hero...Jaz and Zach were the heroes but no one has listened to them.

After they banish Jaz tonight( His time is sadly up),the faithfuls don't deserve to win . If I was in the game ...I would immediately suspect Harry after he turned on Paul ,as it's the reoccurring theme for traitor to betray traitor.

They all think Harry is the hero which is laughable, they really are the blind leading the blind . They've ignored the fact Jaz,Zak etc had their suspicions about Paul in the first place. But suddenly it's Harry who's saved the day.

[Ammi]

…they were on a high last night with the elation of having found not only a Traitor but a very manipulative one who had fooled many of them…but when it all sinks in as the saying goes and they think about it, I’m hoping they’ll realise that Harry has only been at his most vocal and detailed when he’s also being going ‘Traitor versus Traitor’….exactly the same as a few had begun to suspect with Paul…so using that same theory, I’m hoping they’ll look at Harry…I’d love to see it all spice up with new Traitors and none of the originals as a different vibe completely…I know atm, many are hailing Harry as the hero but hmmmmmm….why did they see a different (…relentless…)…Harry that they hadn’t seen before who just happened to KNOW that Traitor….come on faithfuls, it doesn’t take too much figuring out….

[Mystic Mock]

Spoiler:

I think that Goldheart will be happy with tonight's result.

[rusticgal]

Let’s see if Ross has the balls to expose Harry….

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Let’s see if Ross has the balls to expose Harry….

He looked like he was ready to go for him.

I'm all for it.

[Vanessa]

Yes Ross. Hope he goes for it

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Spoiler:

I think that Goldheart will be happy with tonight's result.

lol

Spoiler:

Yeah i wasn't a Charlotte fan and the whole "i've always voted out traitors" , erm didn't she vote Anthony out? ... delusional much, she was acting as if she was miss marple lmao, when she was getting it wrong all the time , like the rest of the faithfuls . She made herself look guilty with the overly defensive attitude aswell

[LaLaLand]

I think power's going to Harry's head and it'll eventually be his downfall (thanks to Ross).

The look Ross gave Harry in the Traitor's Turret when he said "we put her [Diane] in her place"... if looks could kill eh!?



Ross avenging his Mother's death like some Shakespearian/Arthurian legend will be incredible if it all goes accordingly.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes Ross. Hope he goes for it

Be interesting to see if he gets his revenge or bottles it lol .

The next few episodes and the final , is going to be on the seat eating popcorn stuff.

I think Harry is trying too hard now.... he's being too clever to the point where he's showing off and taunting the faithfuls, he's very close to Mollie who will never get murdered so surely that could also be his downfall ie making him the obvious traitor .... if anyone works it out, he confides in her.... which could easily come back to bite him on his bum. Especially now that Ross is thrown into the mix.

I just shake my head and roll my eyes when Andrew & Harry have a Traitors meeting , Harry is the driver and Andrew is the passenger with minimum input. Harry knows he can pull Andrew in any direction he wants, like a puppet master. And Andrew will just stand there still processing it and being agreeable by just going "yeah " over and over again.

Harry's plan about the shield is him trying to outsmart the game , but realistically suspicion would still be on him. But seen as we're dealing with a bunch of clueless faithfuls ... they might actually fall under Harry's spell.

Jaz is literally the only faithful who's logically working things out and even sticking his neck out .... he pointed out that traitors can have shields and he's given proof that Harry is one to watch , and it's funny how he suspected Andrew & Ross ... the very 2 new recruits. So Jaz should get a job at sleuthing. I don't know why they dismiss him when he talks alot of common sense . They're going to look very silly when Harry is revealed as a traitor .

[UserSince2005]

Did anyone else hear the editing on Jaz's confessional when he talks about Ross being a suspicion of his and then they edited on the end "as is harry" in a robot voice.
Ew I hate producer manipulation.
But I guess this means Jaz is coming for Harry next episode if that is the storyline they are so desperate to push.