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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

"The victims" as always here isn't really something you can pin down (other than to say that any civilian life on any side caught in the crossfire is a victim) - the political situation in the Middle East has been a thunderdome for longer than living memory. It's very, very complex and has always been somewhat held together with duck tape and crazy glue.

But people be people and they like their heroes and villains, goodies and baddies... black and white... so to speak. Pointing out political complexity is seen as "fence sitting" - you have to pretend that everything is simple, neat and tied up with a pretty little ribbon, one way or the other, even though it doesn't and never will reflect the reality.

sometimes there is inevitability. This has been brewing for decades. In all my years, it's never been more on the brink than it is now.

It's all very well as an outsider saying cool heads must prevail. That's just not how humans behave, and like i said earlier, the USA were spoiling for a fight when they were attacked - think pearl harbour and the twin towers. No cool heads were on display there

Oh and an observation in passing ..... have we ever had a more insincere PM than Sunak. It's obvious he doesn't give a crap about Israel. He is just parroting words

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

have we ever had a more insincere PM than Sunak. It's obvious he doesn't give a crap about Israel. He is just parroting words

IMO it's fairly obvious that he doesn't give a crap about anything but $$$ and the financial sector. Everything he does enthusiastically is in some way geared towards neoliberal economics, and as you say, everything else sounds like lip service that's been written by someone else and handed to him on a napkin.