[arista]

[Holly Christmas]

Humbling. God bless them.

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/d-day-80-...ilure-13135612

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9ww7dzxxpmo

[arista]

The Online only paper:

[Parmy]

Brave men and women. Not many left now, but still they go. Makes you embarrassed over the things we fight for these days

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Brave men and women. Not many left now, but still they go. Makes you embarrassed over the things we fight for these days

Very True.

[arista]

[Christmas Dynasnow]

The D-Day operation of June 6, 1944, brought together the land, air, and sea
forces of the allied armies in what became known as the largest amphibious
invasion in military history. The operation, given the codename OVERLORD,
delivered five naval assault divisions to the beaches of Normandy, France. The
beaches were given the code names UTAH, OMAHA, GOLD, JUNO, and SWORD.
The invasion force included 7,000 ships and landing craft manned by over
195,000 naval personnel from eight allied countries. Almost 133,000 troops
from the United States, the British Commonwealth, and their allies, landed on
D-Day. Casualties from these countries during the landing numbered 10,300.
By June 30, over 850,000 men, 148,000 vehicles, and 570,000 tons of supplies
had landed on the Normandy shores. Fighting by the brave soldiers, sailors,
and airmen of the allied forces western front, and Russian forces on the eastern
front, led to the defeat of German Nazi forces. On May 7, 1945, German
General Alfred Jodl signed an unconditional surrender at Reims, France.

[arista]

Yes,
The World Armies beat the Nazi Germany's Power
after they killed many of us.


But nowadays some folks will not even Vote
in a General Election
even though they died for our freedom,

[Livia]

A beautiful and moving ceremony this morning and a wonderful tribute last night. No less than the veterans and the fallen deserve.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes,
The World Armies beat the Nazi Germany's Power
after they killed many of us.


[B[But nowadays some folks will not even Vote
in a General Election
even though they died for our freedom[/B],

They fought so that people had freedom to choose what they personally wanted to do.

Which if some people don't want to vote in an Election, that is their freedom and choice to do that.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

They fought so that people had freedom to choose what they personally wanted to do.

Which if some people don't want to vote in an Election, that is their freedom and choice to do that.

Better in Australia
You must Vote By Law

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

They fought so that people had freedom to choose what they personally wanted to do.

Which if some people don't want to vote in an Election, that is their freedom and choice to do that.

I guess if you want to use the freedoms people died for to fuel your apathy, that's between you and your conscience.

[arista]

Biden is there

Putin is banned

Zelensky is happy to shake the hands of
old war heroes.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by arista

Better in Australia
You must Vote By Law

That's worse.

Forcing people to vote when they don't want to is not a democracy.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Livia

I guess if you want to use the freedoms people died for to fuel your apathy, that's between you and your conscience.

I personally don't see what I'm saying as morally wrong, imo forcing people into doing something that isn't about basic moral code, is wrong, it just is.

Forcing people to vote in Elections is wrong, as not voting doesn't physically harm anyone.

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

PM Sunak has said sorry
for leaving Early.
(he took a flight early for a ITV1HD interview
with pushy Paul Brand)

He left Biden and the others with tubby Cameron

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I personally don't see what I'm saying as morally wrong, imo forcing people into doing something that isn't about basic moral code, is wrong, it just is.

Forcing people to vote in Elections is wrong, as not voting doesn't physically harm anyone.

I'm not forcing people, I'm reminding you that people have a civic duty, even if they spoil their ballot paper.

[Livia]

Thank you arista, for posting these front pages like you always do. It's appreciated.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm not forcing people, I'm reminding you that people have a civic duty, even if they spoil their ballot paper.

Not attending is already kind of choosing to spoil their ballot paper though imo, if anything them attending is just a pointless exercise if they're not going to vote for anybody.

I suppose that we'll have to agree to disagree.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Livia

Thank you arista, for posting these front pages like you always do. It's appreciated.

I do agree with you on this.

Arista is definitely one of the best members on here for providing news.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Not attending is already kind of choosing to spoil their ballot paper though imo, if anything them attending is just a pointless exercise if they're not going to vote for anybody.

I suppose that we'll have to agree to disagree.

NO! You have to agree with me. Kidding of course.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I do agree with you on this.

Arista is definitely one of the best members on here for providing news.

He is. I sometimes look in here knowing he will have posted the front pages. Unsung hero...