[Cherie]

Sorry BOTs...did you even manage to get one payment


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...51226ca95&ei=8

[Vanessa]

Pension credit is definitely worth getting. Even if it's not much. It's a gateway to a lot of other benefits.

[smudgie]

Ahhhh.
So the pensioners are the first ones to be hit.
Woderful

[bots]

thanks a lot labour

[Gusto Brunt]

Absolutely disgusting.

cannot believe there couldn't have been something they could have taken from RICH people.

Instead punish the poor and old.

[GiRTh]

This is terrible and I'm not sure how much it will save. The optics are terrible, it does not bring in the revenue of a tax increase on the rich.

[AnnieK]

Awful....so many pensioners relied on that payment. Wonder how many more deaths from pensioners not wanting to put their heating on during the cold weather

[bots]

it's a PR disaster. It wouldn't surprise me if it turned into a giant U turn

[user104658]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Awful....so many pensioners relied on that payment. Wonder how many more deaths from pensioners not wanting to put their heating on during the cold weather

Though I don't agree with it being scrapped - any pensioner who is in the position of struggling with winter bills will be on pension credit (as it's means tested).

Assuming energy prices don't rocket again, anyway.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's a PR disaster. It wouldn't surprise me if it turned into a giant U turn

In PR terms it's insane, huge optics hit for basically zero saving. An odd one.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Though I don't agree with it being scrapped - any pensioner who is in the position of struggling with winter bills will be on pension credit (as it's means tested).

Assuming energy prices don't rocket again, anyway.

Will they though? I dont really know what the cut off point is but I think if you have a small private pension you wouldnt be eligible for pension credit, just going by my aunt she has a private pension she is not entitled to anything, first it was the TV licence, now winter fuel will be taken away and as she is over 80 it was worth 300. I assume prescriptions will be next and then free travel. I think they should have tapered it, obviously there are wealthy pensioners but some are just about managing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

solidarity brothers

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Will they though? I dont really know what the cut off point is but I think if you have a small private pension you wouldnt be eligible for pension credit, just going by my aunt she has a private pension she is not entitled to anything, first it was the TV licence, now winter fuel will be taken away and as she is over 80 it was worth 300. I assume prescriptions will be next and then free travel. I think they should have tapered it, obviously there are wealthy pensioners but some are just about managing.

Hmm, the cut off is actually a fair bit lower than I thought...

[Cherie]

Pretty cynical to go for pensioners but then they dont ordinarily vote for Labour, I would have thought they would have gone for the Amazons and Starbucks of this world who dont pay enough tax

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Pretty cynical to go for pensioners but then they dont ordinarily vote for Labour, I would have thought they would have gone for the Amazons and Starbucks of this world who dont pay enough tax

they certainly wont be voting labour now

I would imagine age concern will be mobilising, so watch this space is what I would say

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Pretty cynical to go for pensioners but then they dont ordinarily vote for Labour, I would have thought they would have gone for the Amazons and Starbucks of this world who dont pay enough tax

The ones who will be (meaningfully) affected by this cut probably did vote Labour this time round though which makes it pretty sad. The better-off Tory pensioners with decent private pensions/a savings pot won't really be affected at all by losing out on a few hundred quid a year.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Though I don't agree with it being scrapped - any pensioner who is in the position of struggling with winter bills will be on pension credit (as it's means tested).

Assuming energy prices don't rocket again, anyway.

A lot of pensioners may nor even know they are entitled to pension credit though and a lot more wouldn't apply for it. My Dad wouldn't apply for benefits even if he were entitled.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

A lot of pensioners may nor even know they are entitled to pension credit though and a lot more wouldn't apply for it. My Dad wouldn't apply for benefits even if he were entitled.

It's worth applying only because then you're entitled to a lot more help.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they certainly wont be voting labour now

I would imagine age concern will be mobilising, so watch this space is what I would say

agreed i expect a response tomorrow?

[Alf]

Hasn't been a good opening month for Labour. Has it?

Riots in Leeds. Soldiers stabbed on the street. Children stabbed at dance class. And now robbing from our pensioners.

Welcome to a Labour Government.

[thesheriff443]

Wasn’t there an outcry be pensioners could claim it when they basically did need it as they were well off and some getting it and not even living in this country

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Alf

Hasn't been a good opening month for Labour. Has it?

Riots in Leeds. Soldiers stabbed on the street. Children stabbed at dance class. And now robbing from our pensioners.

Welcome to a Labour Government.

Apart from the last one those events could of happened under any government

[Alf]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Apart from the last one those events could of happened under any government

Well you say that, but I say good leadership can prevent those things.

I'm not saying the last lot was better, but one month, really?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Apart from the last one those events could of happened under any government

Agreed, the inability to handle rioting if anything is more down to the previous govt. underfunding law enforcement.

No getting around this winter fuel thing being a blunder though. Massive own goal in the first month, which isn't a great sign.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well you say that, but I say good leadership can prevent those things.

Bollox
Governments come and go but people still get stabbed