[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I mean that's simply entirely false.

You only have to read or watch the news FFS


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[Livia]

I didn't grow up in a sleepy village, I grew up in Newham. It was always multicultural ever since the docks opened in the 1800s. My school had minorities from all over the world and I honestly don't remember issues based around race, apart from the Asian kids didn't mix with the white and West Indian kids. But the balance tipped too far. White people became the minority in the 1990s and now it's like a foreign country. An Asian country.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You only have to read or watch the news FFS


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That provides no statistics though, so that’s irrelevant.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

That provides no statistics though, so that’s irrelevant.

There still something very wrong, if people think they can go about with machetes like it's a fun accessory.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

There still something very wrong, if people think they can go about with machetes like it's a fun accessory.

Of course but my point was in regards to Zizu’s comment about who the majority of violent crimes are committed by.

[Benjamin]

If anyone wants to know figures/stats for 2022:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...20prosecutions.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

That provides no statistics though, so that’s irrelevant.

Check out all of horrendous crimes committed over the last year.. try and find more than a couple of British amongst the names

Why do you think millions are at breaking point and we are close to all out rioting .

Just takes one or two more ‘sparks’ like the other night .. it will only take something trivial now to set things off


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[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Check out all of horrendous crimes committed over the last year.. try and find more than a couple of British amongst the names

Why do you think millions are at breaking point and we are close to all out rioting .

Just takes one or two more ‘sparks’ like the other night .. it will only take something trivial now to set things off


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Again, irrelevant, no statistical evidence you’re providing there.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

If anyone wants to know figures/stats for 2022:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...20prosecutions.

That’s all offences.. who gives a flying shyte about small time crimes

I was CLEARLY referring to SERIOUS , violent crimes and atrocities


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[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That’s all offences.. who gives a flying shyte about small time crimes

I was CLEARLY referring to SERIOUS , violent crimes and atrocities


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But still you’ve given no proven statistics.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Again, irrelevant, no statistical evidence you’re providing there.

You just did the same quoting crime figures for late payment of speeding fines and the like

Who gives a feck about minor crimes


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

But still you’ve given no proven statistics.

Well your stats are completely and utterly irrelevant to this conversation


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[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You just did the same quoting crime figures for late payment of speeding fines and the like

Who gives a feck about minor crimes


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If you actually took the time to read it you’ll see it breaks things down.

For example:

Between 2019/20 and 2021/22, 68% of principal suspects convicted of homicide were from the white ethnic group, followed by 14% from the black ethnic group and 15% from the other ethnic group.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well your stats are completely and utterly irrelevant to this conversation


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I’m not the one stating a fact though. You are, without anything concrete to back it up.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I’m not the one stating a fact though. You are, without anything concrete to back it up.

Sometimes the obvious things are …. just obvious


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[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sometimes the obvious things are …. just obvious


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Again, no evidence. Nice try though.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

If you actually took the time to read it you’ll see it breaks things down.

For example:

5 years ago ..

Things have escalated over the past week never mind the last 5 years


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[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

5 years ago ..

Things have escalated over the past week never mind the last 5 years


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Actually it goes up until 2022. Correct my math if I’m wrong here, but that isn’t 5 years ago.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Again, no evidence. Nice try though.

For what its worth the rest of us are living ( and dying) in 2024 …

Your 5 year old stats are completely irrelevant especially given the pace things are currently moving


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Actually it goes up until 2022. Correct my math if I’m wrong here, but that isn’t 5 years ago.

Still irrelevant given the pace things are hotting up at currently

Figures from 6 months ago are now irrelevant


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[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

For what its worth the rest of us are living ( and dying) in 2024 …

Your 5 year old stats are completely irrelevant especially given the pace things are currently moving


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Yet you still can’t find any stats to back it up!

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Yet you still can’t find any stats to back it up!

Neither can you


Find some stats over the last month or so for serious violent crimes / atrocities !!

How odd you repeatedly forget that we are talking about serious/ violent / atrocities not late payments of fines


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[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Neither can you


Find some stats over the last month or so for serious violent crimes / atrocities !!

How odd you repeatedly forget that we are talking about serious/ violent / atrocities not late payments of fines


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But I’m not the one stating a “fact”, you are. But with no evidence to back it up.

Also I’m not talking about fines. Not mentioned them once.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You only have to read or watch the news FFS

That's a terrible metric for getting at the facts.

If you'd said that a disproportionate amount of violent crime involves minorities that might be true but to say that the majority of violent crime in the UK does simply isn't the case. It involves white British males. Simple statistical fact, and one that you would expect, as the population is still (despite people's fears) 75% white British.

[Vanessa]

With London the problem is the gangs. And it's the reason I don't go to some areas anymore.
I would say both english people and minorities have serious criminals.