[GlitterUK]

I think her list is getting scrappy, it is now a case of throw anyone under the bus to save her self.

Martha's best bits will be short. Where as Ali's will be jam packed over which bust up to pick over the next.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

I think her list is getting scrappy, it is now a case of throw anyone under the bus to save her self.

Martha's best bits will be short. Where as Ali's will be jam packed over which bust up to pick over the next.

…that’s also quite strange when we think as well because only really a few short days ago, Ali had thoughts of leaving because it wasn’t the experience she had hoped for and she hadn’t wanted to become involved in arguments etc…it’s all quite conflicting atm…

[Abra]

Also I have to say I found it funny that Ali and Dean's plan to pair up the HM's to get Khaled and Marcello nominated totally backfired. She got lucky with the save and replace but I've noticed that she seems to get triggered and annoyed every time she realises that people aren't turning against Khaled how she had hoped. It was the same when he won HoH and she snapped and then again last night when he didn't get nominated.

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…that’s also quite strange when we think as well because only really a few short days ago, Ali had thoughts of leaving because it wasn’t the experience she had hoped for and she hadn’t wanted to become involved in arguments etc…it’s all quite conflicting atm…

I wonder whether the Khaled experience has led her to be less vocal about her feelings in the house. But surely that makes her as 'fake' as she accuses Khaled of being, considering the likes of Sarah, Rosie and I'm sure there's another, seemingly do not know how she feels about them.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by FromBB8

I wonder whether the Khaled experience has led her to be less vocal about her feelings in the house. But surely that makes her as 'fake' as she accuses Khaled of being, considering the likes of Sarah, Rosie and I'm sure there's another, seemingly do not know how she feels about them.

…that’s interesting with her as well because she did seem to step back a bit and be less vocal as you say…/…quite subdued, even…but then, Khaled was HoH that time so seen as the person with the house control../that person she’d felt least connected with…?….now Ali is the HoH with Dean so she has the control…?..and so it all begins again with arguments…

[GlitterUK]

I think having HOH gives you a bit of room to be a bit sly if that is in your nature. With Khaled it wasn't he did what he thought was fair. Where as Dean and Ali have messed about and even laughed when putting Nathan with Izaaz for example and then tried to work out how they would explain it to everyone sniggering as they went.

As we know it is the rise before the fall.

[Gusto Brunt]

After last night's episode she's gone further down in my estimation.

Just a horrible, vindictive woman.

Nasty, selfish, and a huge trouble maker.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…that’s also quite strange when we think as well because only really a few short days ago, Ali had thoughts of leaving because it wasn’t the experience she had hoped for and she hadn’t wanted to become involved in arguments etc…it’s all quite conflicting atm…

She thrives off conflict too much for me to think she actually wanted to leave because of that.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Maru

She thrives off conflict too much for me to think she actually wanted to leave because of that.

Well she obviously does NOT thrive off conflict but hey carry on with your flawed character assassination


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[Beso]

She is ruined by spite..

So spiteful she couldnt even bring herself to cut kahled some slack after he was first to smash the portraits but left hers intact..

Very nasty and spiteful

[FromBB8]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well she obviously does NOT thrive off conflict but hey carry on with your flawed character assassination


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Then why does she constantly go out of her way to create it.

Take yesterday's highlights.

"Now can you see how it wasn't easy for me?" or WTTE
If she had replied, "Yeah, that was a horrible thing to go through" they could have just moved on. But by bringing up point scoring she started the slippery slope towards another disagreement which, this time, is growing in size.

[BBXX]

Yes I think Marcello summed it up that Ali thinks negatively of people. I don't think Ali is horrible, I think she's a great HM and I very much want her to win, but I do think her biggest flaw is thinking negatively of people - she often does think the worst of them and it's probably rooted in paranoia. I don't think that makes her a horrible person, but it does mean she clashes, often in cases that were unneeded.

Ironically though, much of the rhetoric around Ali from those who dislike her are doing precisely the same thing as she is about her. She's nowhere near deserving of 95% of the negative labels she's been given.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Abra

Last night's episode was rough for her.

The way she tried to act like the save and replace nomination wasn't personal and had nothing to do with her hatred for Khaled was laughable.

lol, right? More preformative niceness from the 'queen of real'. Everything that she accuses others of so easily.

It was stone cold personal from those two and a targeted assassination.

I hope that the other HMs saw it as clearly as some of us do.

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I hope that the other HMs saw it as clearly as some of us do.

From the sneak previews we've seen thus far, it seems they do.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by vesavius

lol, right? More preformative niceness from Ali the 'queen of real'.

I hope that the other HMs saw it as clearly as some of us do.

Na we aren’t smokin’ the stuff you seem to be



Some of your thoughts and theories are out there somewhere ..


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[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Na we aren’t smokin’ the stuff you seem to be



Some of your thoughts and theories are out there somewhere ..


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Once again, talk about the HMs and stop making personal attacks on forum members. You are constantly baiting for a personal slagging match between us but I don't want to get into it like that.

For the record though, literally everything I have said about Ali is supported by her actions and I was saying it before the anti Ali train started. Calling me names or trying to make out that I am some kind of loon doesn't change that.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Abra

Also I have to say I found it funny that Ali and Dean's plan to pair up the HM's to get Khaled and Marcello nominated totally backfired. She got lucky with the save and replace but I've noticed that she seems to get triggered and annoyed every time she realises that people aren't turning against Khaled how she had hoped. It was the same when he won HoH and she snapped and then again last night when he didn't get nominated.

Yeah she was banking on the housemates nominating Khaled & Marcello. She cares more about how it makes her look ...now that both her & Dean picked ' save & replace '. And both Dean & Ali are full of BS , Dean rolling off utter lies about how " well we thought the boys would handle it better" . And Ali making out it's not because she had issues with Khaled & Marcello as she cries crocodile tears .

She's the biggest fake in there ,why didn't she just admit that the reason they picked Marcello & Khaled to face eviction is because both her and Dean find them ' problematic & controversial '. Own the decision and stop playing victim.

And don't turn it into another battle with Khaled to make him look like the bad guy , he was never point scoring and she knows it . She hated the fact Khaled was right about HOH being tough at times...so instead she wanted to take the opportunity to get sympathy.

[Vanessa]

She's this year villain. The new nasty Nick?

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's this year villain. The new nasty Nick?

She's not nearly as clever

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ray.

She's not nearly as clever

Trying to subtly influence nominations. She reminds me so much of him.
I hope the housemates don't fall for her bs

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Yes I think Marcello summed it up that Ali thinks negatively of people. I don't think Ali is horrible, I think she's a great HM and I very much want her to win, but I do think her biggest flaw is thinking negatively of people - she often does think the worst of them and it's probably rooted in paranoia. I don't think that makes her a horrible person, but it does mean she clashes, often in cases that were unneeded.

Ironically though, much of the rhetoric around Ali from those who dislike her are doing precisely the same thing as she is about her. She's nowhere near deserving of 95% of the negative labels she's been given.

Shhhhhhh, you can't pull people up on hypocrisy. We're perfect and they're not lol

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's this year villain. The new nasty Nick?

I dunno ,I have a feeling Nick is a nice guy. The few clips I saw of him in ultimate BB he seemed more genuine.

I think he just played a bad game in the first series.

[jem-jem]

Ain't that the truth. She's so blind to her behaviour.

[Vanessa]

The Red Witch. Appropriate name for her.