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IntoxiKated
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.....To support Kamala Harris. Political bloody bias. They should be obliged to remain neutral? Surely?
Do you think it's right, or very very wrong? Also apparently some people are calling Trump deranged! Well I just watched an interview with Kamala and she was laughing so hard and so manically I thought she was going to cough up a lung. She was incoherent. I think she's a total fruit loop. Do you think she's fit to run America? Post your opinions here.
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IntoxiKated
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Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has played down the significance of alleged interference by the Labour Party in the US presidential election.
The Trump campaign has filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission in Washington seeking an immediate investigation into alleged "blatant foreign interference". Sir Keir, who met Trump last month, said party staff going to the US to campaign for Democratic candidate Kamala Harris were volunteers "doing it in their spare time" and staying with other volunteers. Environment Secretary Steve Reed told the BBC the Labour Party had not funded or organised their trips, while Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner also insisted the activists had been campaigning "in their own time".
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Yes she’s very fit to run America.
Trump is deranged. His supporters are deranged. Anyone who disagrees with that id deranged.
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So Labour didn’t send people to campaign for Kamala then, got it, now let’s talk about Farage following Trump around America like a leech rather than doing his actual job.
Also, yes, Trump is severely deranged, a woman who laughs is a the vastly superior choice to somebody who rambles like a cuckoo in an old folks home
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Yep, although I will say, a lot of Trump fans love him because he’s deranged and horrifically racist
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The USA have been interfering in UK politics, indeed global politics for years. Trump has been interfering in USA politics, inviting world leaders to talks when he doesnt represent the current administration. That most certainly is against the law in America
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Piss orf.
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Could probaly only find 100 likeable ones.
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Kamala is likely to win.
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Remembering Kerry
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As to all Parties it's been the case for ages.
Labour sent NO ONE to the States. It's individuals who have chosen to go. It's happened with members of the Cons too. Not MPs or elected representatives. Just the same here . Nothing from ANY governnents immaterial of Party. However what about Farage now an elected MP to parliament going over and helping his friend Trump get elected. Or is he admired for that while other Party supporters or even members get vilified Farage from the UK has gone to the USA for I understand all of the elections Trump has fought. Personally I wouldn't go, who'd want to be in the ridiculous circus of the USA politics. However whatever the reasons, I'd hope the Democrats win the USA election but I really feel Trump will win. This thread however is insulting. Neither Labour or the Cons in government or opposition have sent elected representatives to the USA at elections. Contrast that with Farage and Reform. Last edited by joeysteele; 23-10-2024 at 09:52 PM. |
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Remembering Kerry
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Furthermore, this has gone on for decades anyhow.
The thread title is NOT fact, Labour sent NO one to the USA. Just as the Cons never have either. Betty Boothroyd, successful Labour MP and first female speaker of the Commons. Was a Labour member and candidate in general elections. However not elected until later. She in 1960 went independently to the USA to canvass for John Kennedy. Are people so ignorant of politics they can't make their own minds up instead of just always believing the trash and misleading agenda called news by the media. I note the silence that it appears it's fine for an elected leader of Reform in Farage to go and support Trump though. How hypocritical. Last edited by joeysteele; 23-10-2024 at 10:26 PM. |
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IntoxiKated
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Re Sofia Patel.
She invited Labour staffers to contact her at the email address “labourforkamala@gmail.com” and told volunteers that Labour will be providing housing while the operatives campaign for Harris in the U.S. The Labour Party head of operations did not specify whether the program is an official Labour Party initiative and did not provide details on exactly how volunteers will be helping the Harris campaign — or who’s paying for it all. She also failed to mention whether they will be coordinating directly with the Harris campaign. The Maine Wire reached out to the email address provided, requesting details on the program, but Patel did not respond. In addition to deleting the post, Patel appears to have removed her entire LinkedIn account. The Labour initiative quickly drew outrage from many on the U.K.’s right.
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Remembering Kerry
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I'm adding this question.
Is it reasonable for ANY supporter, member of or elected representative of ANY UK political Party to go to the USA to support any candidates there. Of ALL the Parties of the UK that is. Not just one. |
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IntoxiKated
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Here's what Keir said.
Asked if the complaint risked jeopardising his relationship with Trump if he becomes president again, the prime minister said: “No. I spent time in New York with President Trump, had dinner with him and my purpose in doing that was to make sure that between the two of us we established a good relationship, which we did, and we’re grateful for him for making the time.” “We had a good, constructive discussion and, of course as prime minister of the United Kingdom I will work with whoever the American people return as their president in their elections which are very close now.” The complaint cited a now-deleted LinkedIn post by Labour’s head of operations, which said almost 100 current and former party officials were travelling to the US to campaign for the Democrats in swing states including North Carolina, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Virginia. The post added that there were 10 spots still available and promised that “we will sort your housing”.
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Remembering Kerry
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Where does he say they were sent by Labour. The complainant is Trump's team Who have also cited the Russians as interference too. He'll be blaming half the World if he loses again just like he did in 2020 What on earth does your post above prove. Plus having somewhere to stay doesn't mean paying for it. It's not from the Labour Party. It's organised by individuals acting independently. You just keep pedalling this nonsense while leaving your thread title that the Labour party sent them. Utter nonsense and I'll say again disgraceful. |
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IntoxiKated
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It absolutely is from the Labour Party
It was Labour's Head Of Operations Sofia Patel who said it. Here..... The complaint cited a now-deleted LinkedIn post by Labour’s head of operations, which said almost 100 current and former party officials were travelling to the US to campaign for the Democrats in swing states including North Carolina, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Virginia. The post added that there were 10 spots still available and promised that “we will sort your housing”.
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The Judge
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I personally hope so.
Don't get me wrong, Trump can make me laugh with some of the batshit crazy things that he says, but I wouldn't want him to be running America again.
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I missed your post last night but want to say you are right. Our Parties have sought the advice of American political strategists to advise our Parties at times too. I listed Betty Boothroyd who went to help Kennedy in 1960 I could have gone this year but I actually don't like USA politics. Ours is bad enough. This has gone on for decades. For me, as long as NO MP elected to the UK parliament go over, I see no problem. Others even if in prominent positions as members, actng individually to go and give support is fine. It looks to me that Trump and his paranoid team, are lining up excuses in case they lose again. To blame any and everyone ANYWHERE for the loss. I won't Labour my Farage point again but he is now an elected MP and leader of a Party. Yet supporting Trump publicly and actively. Which actually again I see nothing untoward about. Since that's seen as domething that seems fine, then why this fuss against another Party? This has gone on from all Parties both in opposition and in government. I frankly wouldn't be bothered even if some funding was in place. It's actually good in my view to get active experience of other political processes in elections. I agree obviously with what you posted above though. |
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Good grief he's complaining at our government possibly because he fears losing again. Yet the Republicans in elections past have had support from political supporters from the UK in past USA elections too. It's the title of this thread I am furious about. In saying Labour SENT these people. These are people immaterial of their status as members who are NOT elected and independently wanted to go by choice. NOT sent by any Party. Because the thread title is misleading in its format and question. IN MY OPINION. The opening post acting like both judge and jury too. Last edited by joeysteele; 24-10-2024 at 06:40 AM. |
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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…don’t any volunteers who go, go exactly as that…in their own time and at their own expense…I guess that it’s possibly like a work experience in experiencing part of the workings of another country election process… |
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Excuse me. The thread title is perfectly fine. It doesn't allege in any way that the volunteers got paid. Look again at where I quoted Sofia Patels statement on LinkedIn where she confirms 100 volunteers went out there and that they were offered housing for the duration. Oh hang on you can't check it, it's been deleted I think.
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IntoxiKated
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Here it is again. To clarify.
The complaint cited a now-deleted LinkedIn post by Labour’s head of operations, which said almost 100 current and former party officials were travelling to the US to campaign for the Democrats in swing states including North Carolina, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Virginia. The post added that there were 10 spots still available and promised that “we will sort your housing” It's clearly been deleted to try and cover up. In my opinion.
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