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Originally Posted by jones89

I put all 5 on Ella. I really felt for her in tonight’s show and seen a different side to her

Don't you think that she was harsh on Chesney though?

[JingleJones]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Don't you think that she was harsh on Chesney though?

I mean.. a bit yeah.. but that situation with Mickey/Chesney had clearly been bugging her and i’m glad she got it out and that she apologized to Chesney after

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Originally Posted by jones89

I mean.. a bit yeah.. but that situation with Mickey/Chesney had clearly been bugging her and i’m glad she got it out and that she apologized to Chesney after

I personally just think that she's an unpleasant brat tbh.

I've tried to bite my tongue about her and tried to see the good sides of her, but she's just not very likable imo.

[JingleJones]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I personally just think that she's an unpleasant brat tbh.

I've tried to bite my tongue about her and tried to see the good sides of her, but she's just not very likable imo.

I was in that boat too, probably still am for the most part but i just felt really bad for her tonight

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Originally Posted by jones89

I was in that boat too, probably still am for the most part but i just felt really bad for her tonight

Fair enough.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Don't you think that she was harsh on Chesney though?

She probably overthought everything and then it all came out wrong anyway

Both dyslexic traits


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[Ray.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Don't you think that she was harsh on Chesney though?

It was harsh and very cutting, we can agree on that. I do think the way she framed it was going about it completely the wrong way, especially as women presuming to tell men what a 'real' man is, is always laughable to me anyway. And I say that as someone who freely acknowledges himself to be far from a paragon of traditional masculinity. However, analysing the specifics of what she said, I see no problem in her nominating Chesney for essentially saying one thing (and a very noble and empathetic thing, at that) and then repeatedly doing something that seems the complete opposite to that and that demonstrates none of the understanding he'd previously shown to supposedly have for her.

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Originally Posted by Ray.

It was harsh and very cutting, we can agree on that. I do think the way she framed it was going about it completely the wrong way, especially as women presuming to tell men what a 'real' man is, is always laughable to me anyway. And I say that as someone who freely acknowledges himself to be far from a paragon of traditional masculinity. However, analysing the specifics of what she said, I see no problem in her nominating Chesney for essentially saying one thing (and a very noble and empathetic thing, at that) and then repeatedly doing something that seems the complete opposite to that and that demonstrates none of the understanding he'd previously shown to supposedly have for her.

She's singling Chesney out over something that none of the other guys in the house had also failed to do though.

Plus it's BB, Ella has to fend for herself on the Show.

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

She's singling Chesney out over something that none of the other guys in the house had also failed to do though.

Plus it's BB, Ella has to fend for herself on the Show.

But again, the crux there is that Chesney got her alone and specifically told her that he felt guilty over not having defended her in the moment. None of the other guys iirc went to the trouble of doing that and so it looked to her like he had an understanding of her emotional state on a level none of the others did. That's why she's singling him out specifically.

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Originally Posted by Ray.

But again, the crux there is that Chesney got her alone and specifically told her that he felt guilty over not having defended her in the moment. None of the other guys iirc went to the trouble of doing that and so it looked to her like he had an understanding of her emotional state on a level none of the others did. That's why she's singling him out specifically.

But my point is that Chesney isn't obliged to defend Ella against Mickey on BB, Ella is a grown woman and shouldn't be expecting Chesney of all people to come to her rescue.

Regardless of what Chesney is saying to her.

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But my point is that Chesney isn't obliged to defend Ella against Mickey on BB, Ella is a grown woman and shouldn't be expecting Chesney of all people to come to her rescue.

Regardless of what Chesney is saying to her.

I may be misremembering slightly here, but iirc, her primary reasoning for nominating him wasn't that he'd failed to defend her, but that he told her he felt guilty for not having done so, only to then spend the new two weeks making crude jokes alongside Mickey's 'skeleton' in the pool area, demonstrating to her that it was all talk on his part. That was my understanding of her nominating him. I agree wholeheartedly that he's not obliged to defend her, and if she said that he is, then she was wrong to do so.

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Originally Posted by Ray.

I may be misremembering slightly here, but iirc, her primary reasoning for nominating him wasn't that he'd failed to defend her, but that he told her he felt guilty for not having done so, only to then spend the new two weeks making crude jokes alongside Mickey's 'skeleton' in the pool area, demonstrating to her that it was all talk on his part. That was my understanding of her nominating him. I agree wholeheartedly that he's not obliged to defend her, and if she said that he is, then she was wrong to do so.

To me it just felt like it was tit for tat because Chesney had nominated her, so she decided to get personal with him in retaliation.

Because again I do personally think that Chesney making jokes shouldn't be worthy of a nomination, but Ella does flood the studio at a drop of a hat, so she probably does view Chesney as a bad person for it.