[Good King Glennceslas]

The Sun




I’ll wait for an official announcement

[The Grinch]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The Sun




I’ll wait for an official announcement

What do they mean by woke? Because he's gay?

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Barry.

What do they mean by woke? Because he's gay?

Gay, black etc etc

The horror! An incredibly talented actor of color playing an alien who regenerates. The absolute scandal. How ever will they cope with such unprecedented inclusivity in a show about, you know, traveling through all of time and space and encountering endless forms of life? Maybe they should stick to shows where everyone looks exactly the same if change is so terrifying.

[The Grinch]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Gay, black etc etc

The horror! An incredibly talented actor of color playing an alien who regenerates. The absolute scandal. How ever will they cope with such unprecedented inclusivity in a show about, you know, traveling through all of time and space and encountering endless forms of life? Maybe they should stick to shows where everyone looks exactly the same if change is so terrifying.

I'm shocked! But really, it was bound to happen in our lifetime. Don't see the problem. I go in and out of Dr Who but he didn't seem too bad. I remember the outrage when a girl played Dr Who lol. People will moan at anything these days

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Barry.

I'm shocked! But really, it was bound to happen in our lifetime. Don't see the problem. I go in and out of Dr Who but he didn't seem too bad. I remember the outrage when a girl played Dr Who lol. People will moan at anything these days

The same ones that will say ‘I’m not racist but’

It’s a show about a two hearted face changing alien. It’s literally not real.
They’re just very very sad individuals

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Gay, black etc etc

The horror! An incredibly talented actor of color playing an alien who regenerates. The absolute scandal. How ever will they cope with such unprecedented inclusivity in a show about, you know, traveling through all of time and space and encountering endless forms of life? Maybe they should stick to shows where everyone looks exactly the same if change is so terrifying.

You have a point on the race change.

But tbf changing a character's sexuality is really bad writing under most circumstances, and the few reasons that a Show can come up with that is good writing, Doctor Who fails to meet the criteria.

- He isn't a teenager who's about to become an adult, where you could argue that he is still learning about himself.

- And it's not a Remake/Reboot series with an alternate timeline, where almost anything can change from the original version.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You have a point on the race change.

But tbf changing a character's sexuality is really bad writing under most circumstances, and the few reasons that a Show can come up with that is good writing, Doctor Who fails to meet the criteria.

- He isn't a teenager who's about to become an adult, where you could argue that he is still learning about himself.

- And it's not a Remake/Reboot series with an alternate timeline, where almost anything can change from the original version.

It's well established though that the regenerations are not just a "face change", it's still essentially the same person with the same memories but the entire personality can change; one of the clearest examples of that was Matt Smith > Peter Capaldi and they covered it quite well in the episode... having the dying Smith-doctor call Clara from the past to explain to her that she might have to really "look deep" to see that it's still him, because he might seem very different. But they all change their style, quirks, personal likes and dislikes, mannerisms etc... no reason different regenerations wouldn't find themselves attracted to different people.

Besides; Eccleston and Smith's doctors were blatantly bisexual-ish / "down for whatever" and Capaldi was for all intents and purposes entirely asexual. Tennant had an eye for the ladies definitely but other than that, doctor's an alien... I don't think he could ever have been classed as "straight".

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

It's well established though that the regenerations are not just a "face change", it's still essentially the same person with the same memories but the entire personality can change; one of the clearest examples of that was Matt Smith > Peter Capaldi and they covered it quite well in the episode... having the dying Smith-doctor call Clara from the past to explain to her that she might have to really "look deep" to see that it's still him, because he might seem very different. But they all change their style, quirks, personal likes and dislikes, mannerisms etc... no reason different regenerations wouldn't find themselves attracted to different people.

Besides; Eccleston and Smith's doctors were blatantly bisexual-ish / "down for whatever" and Capaldi was for all intents and purposes entirely asexual. Tennant had an eye for the ladies definitely but other than that, doctor's an alien... I don't think he could ever have been classed as "straight".

Speaking for myself (and I think quite a few other people) when I say that some people do like to see traits of a character stay intact when a recast is happening, and a character's sexuality being changed on a whim after decades of the character being written to have the leading lady being his love interest, is going to feel odd for a lot of the audience.

Don't forget it will alter character dynamics when Shows do these kinds of changes just for the sake of it.

For example I don't know if you've watched Sense8? But if it got a remake and they didn't make Nomi a Transwoman who is also a Lesbian type of character, it again would change her dynamics on the Show to some extent.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You have a point on the race change.

But tbf changing a character's sexuality is really bad writing under most circumstances, and the few reasons that a Show can come up with that is good writing, Doctor Who fails to meet the criteria.

- He isn't a teenager who's about to become an adult, where you could argue that he is still learning about himself.

- And it's not a Remake/Reboot series with an alternate timeline, where almost anything can change from the original version.

His entire body changes, presumably including his endocrine system and neurology etc ... why wouldn't that change his sexuality occasionally?

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

His entire body changes, presumably including his endocrine system and neurology etc ... why wouldn't that change his sexuality occasionally?

There has to be some consistency in how a character's personality and dynamics work within a story, otherwise you don't really have the character anymore.

That's writing 101.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

There has to be some consistency in how a character's personality and dynamics work within a story, otherwise you don't really have the character anymore.

That's writing 101.

Based on how similar 11 was to 12, and either of them were to 13?

They were all pretty different, apart from the core "Doctorish" Values.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

There has to be some consistency in how a character's personality and dynamics work within a story, otherwise you don't really have the character anymore.

That's writing 101.

For anything other than Dr. Who maybe

[arista]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The Sun




I’ll wait for an official announcement

This is not, from the Sun.



[Doctor Who's leading man Ncuti Gatwa
has reportedly been axed by the
BBC after two series.
According to reports, there is currently no
replacement for the beloved Time Lord.
The actor has reportedly been fired
by the company after he backed
out of hosting the Eurovision
Song Contest last weekend.]

1 hour ago

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by arista

This is not, from the Sun.



[Doctor Who's leading man Ncuti Gatwa
has reportedly been axed by the
BBC after two series.
According to reports, there is currently no
replacement for the beloved Time Lord.
The actor has reportedly been fired
by the company after he backed
out of hosting the Eurovision
Song Contest last weekend.]

1 hour ago

The bits in brackets are from the Sun. The sun who think that with two episodes to go, episodes that are complete, that a regeneration can be tacked on. It’s just rage bait for right wingers. Hence why LT posted a thread about it littered with with the word WOKE.

The likelihood is that Ncuti IS probably leaving. Next weeks episode is going to be simultaneously aired around the world to stop spoilers. An event pre planned months ago.