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Old 10-06-2025, 07:16 AM #4151
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The tunnels under Gaza were first built in 1980, by Israel, who fully occupied Gaza at the time.

Hamas didn't even exist until the late 80's.

The maths ain't mathing.


If you can come away from Hamas.org for a minute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palest...the_Gaza_Strip
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I thought she was kidnapped? I thought she'd be held for years with no one knowing if she was alive or dead. No wait... that's the Israelis who were kidnapped.

Greta and her flunkies refused to watch footage of 7th October attacks. Well, ignorance is bliss, I guess.

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I doubt anyone on the Selfie Yacht truly believed their food would get to staving Gazans.
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Looks like she kept all the sour grapes to herself.
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Greta was now speaking to the Press,

In Paris , France
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I thought she was kidnapped? I thought she'd be held for years with no one knowing if she was alive or dead. No wait... that's the Israelis who were kidnapped.

Greta and her flunkies refused to watch footage of 7th October attacks. Well, ignorance is bliss, I guess.
The world didn't start on October 7th. Tens of thousands of Palestinians have been kidnapped, raped, and tortured by the Israeli state.

Serious question, even if we assume the world did start on October 7th, have you not seen the live feed of all atrocities committed by Israel? Did you watch the video I posted early in the thread, where Jewish soldiers were laughing about emptying guns into classrooms of children, back in the 60's?

If you won't watch or show any interest in documented reality, why would these people want to watch a propaganda Israeli snuff film? I bet the video of Israel gunning it's own people down, won't be on the video.
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The world didn't start on October 7th. Tens of thousands of Palestinians have been kidnapped, raped, and tortured by the Israeli state.

Serious question, even if we assume the world did start on October 7th, have you not seen the live feed of all atrocities committed by Israel? Did you watch the video I posted early in the thread, where Jewish soldiers were laughing about emptying guns into classrooms of children, back in the 60's?

If you won't watch or show any interest in documented reality, why would these people want to watch a propaganda Israeli snuff film? I bet the video of Israel gunning it's own people down, won't be on the video.
I think everyone in this thread knows now that Israel has gone way too far with his genocide under the guise of fighting terror but they'll never admit it. Israeli beaches are full of happy and relaxed people right now just kilometers from Gaza, they are not scared and hiding away from Hamas. They know that Palestinians are being killed, gored, starved etc.. but they use the terror attack as a way of avoiding a guilty conscience.
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Israel has been using these tactics for 60 years, including rape.


@Livia

have you seen this? Any chance you could comment on it, please? love to get your perspective on something that happened before October 7th.
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The Labour Party has now sanctioned
2 Israeli Politicians


https://news.sky.com/story/sanctioni...-bank-13381689
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Three years ago Russia sanctioned 287 British MPs. It didn't take up a whole lot of their time.
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Have you watched that video I posted for you up above, Liv?
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Nothing is going to stop Israel from killing Palestinians, they don't see them as human. It's an atrocity.
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Nothing is going to stop Israel from killing Palestinians, they don't see them as human. It's an atrocity.
Do you think that Israel would exist today if Hamas had access to the same fire power?
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Do you think that Israel would exist today if Hamas had access to the same fire power?
Hamas is not Palestine. You could say that about any terror organisation. If the innocent Palestinians could fight back at the same level then Israel might actually stop attacking them.
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Hamas is not Palestine. You could say that about any terror organisation. If the innocent Palestinians could fight back at the same level then Israel might actually stop attacking them.
You make a distinction for innocent Palestinians but not for innocent Israelis ?
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You make a distinction for innocent Palestinians but not for innocent Israelis ?
It was ever thus...
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You make a distinction for innocent Palestinians but not for innocent Israelis ?
The ones attacking Palestinians aren't innocent, are they? I wasn't talking about the Israelis who condemn genocide at all.
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Ah... A distinction at last from one of our resident "experts".

How about those who carried out the 7th October attack? Those that are still holding Israeli hostages? Those who murdered a mother and her two babies in captivity? The Palestinians who were dancing in the street at over 1200 people being murdered? The Palestinians who fired rockets into Israel day in, day out for decades before 7th October?

I already know the answer... Yeah, Israel bad, though...

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Ah... A distinction at last from one of our resident "experts".

How about those who carried out the 7th October attack? Those that are still holding Israeli hostages? Those who murdered a mother and her two babies in captivity? The Palestinians who were dancing in the street at over 1200 people being murdered? The Palestinians who fired rockets into Israel day in, day out for decades before 7th October?

I already know the answer... Yeah, Israel bad, though...
Did...anything happen before October 7th? I've posted that video on this very page which shows exactly how long Israel has been using terror against Palestinian civilians. Have you watched the video yet?
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Do you think that Israel would exist today if Hamas had access to the same fire power?
This is nothing more than willful ignorance. Hamas wasn't created until the late 80's. Israel has been oppressing the Palestinian people since the late 40's. Do you have no concept or understanding of history?

Playing these ridiculous hypotheticals out, when everything Hamas is accused of, Israel has done first, by orders of magnitude, every day for nearly 80 years.
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Hamas is not Palestine. You could say that about any terror organisation. If the innocent Palestinians could fight back at the same level then Israel might actually stop attacking them.
We say Hamas instead of Palestine - why not IDF instead of Israel?
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We say Hamas instead of Palestine - why not IDF instead of Israel?
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We say Hamas instead of Palestine - why not IDF instead of Israel?
Because that analogy doesn't make any sense. It's the state of Israel that is directing things. the IDF is a part of the state.
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