[bots]

My take on all this is that there are hidden agendas being played out. No issue this complicated is ever straightforward. Billionaires that pretend to support Trumps immigration plan, don't support it, people that pretend to be on the side of illegal immigrants, aren't. The definition of a criminal is subject to change depending on the weather. It's all about money and power and people feathering their own nests, nothing more, nothing less

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

No I totally get that. I was wondering if what I heard was true… because then I was wondering about known criminals being able to just… stay and life a life of safety/luxury (or live somewhere better than the country anyway)

The sad thing is, is that this just makes people think all immigrants here are bad, when that’s just not the case at all. It’s such a complicated situation where people on all sides feel so passionate about their views and it brings out the worst of us

No worries. I was replying generally mostly because I'm just catching up to discussion. If I add more stuff that seems irrelevant, it's me adding more stuff to catch up

FWIW, I don't know anyone here that thinks that "all immigrants" here are bad and I would be one of the first to hear that logic play out ...

If they are not deporting, then we are allowing known criminals to stay because US criminal justice increasingly does what is called catch and release. Meaning, we don't really jail people for long periods of time (legal or not), we detain them until a judge can see them who then gives them a hand slap and puts them right back where they found them. Our jails are very full and understaffed, so that's one reason, but many places have voted in "activist judges" (nothing better to call them, sorry) that see the criminal needing protecting. Some years back they put $1 bonds for even violent crimes as an eff you to enforcement locally, including for one for assault on a police. Nothing special about that case, but I guess they wanted to show just how far they were willing to go. Normally they give out "free bond/PR bond like candies, but I'm guessing there was some kind of restriction to prevent it. Anyway, at least one of those went on to murder someone. (There have been many repeat offenders on PR bonds...)

When we had primaries, several judges were primaried out and replaced with people who probably think similarly which would be my guess, but aren't going to be as public now...

Kidnapping, assault suspect released on $1 bonds back in court on new charge of threatening same victim
https://www.khou.com/article/news/cr...9-9877af01c46f




Other stuff:
Fun fact, they're trying to put a gag order on the former DA who handled Jocelyn Nungaray's case. She was ... because she's no longer batting for the same team, apparently...

Jocelyn Nungaray case: Judge silences former District Attorney Kim Ogg after FOX 26 interview
https://www.fox26houston.com/news/jo...-ogg-interview

She's saying that there was proof there were at least another victim that had come forward (an American on vacation) before Jocelyn, but in Costa Rica. That's enough for a gag order, somehow, and they didn't tell the mother this sad fact either...

I feel terrible for her. It seems to have become her whole life now to try to avenge her daughter. That's not having any kind of peace.

Also the judge over her case is one of the $1 bond judges... great... so great...

Kim Ogg is an interesting figure to follow. I haven't kept up with every detail, but she would be "in the know" on so much, especially the internal politics. She's not a typical turncoat. She's a DA brought in under the LGBT banner (she's a lesbian, iirc). Well, she called out too much of what she saw of even people on her own side and so they came up with all sorts of problems and she lost her bid. She ended up campaigning for Ted Cruz, ironically enough. As far as I know, she's still a Democrat. It's hard to say what her motives are, maybe it's revenge, but she was at the helm and doing a lot of the things she's accusing others of. There were so many problems with her cases and she seemed to cherry things politically more than whether the case even had great prospects... just looks good in the newspaper kind of thing.

Conflicts with local Democratic elected officials

Kim Ogg investigated county elected officials and staffers several times after having public disagreements over issues such as bail reform, violence interruption program implementation, and her office's budget. Almost $1 million in taxpayer dollars were spent on legal fees for investigations that never resulted in criminal charges.[31] In August 2020, Harris County Commissioner Rodney Ellis was investigated by her public corruption unit or the unauthorized storage of art, and was later cleared by a grand jury.[39][40] Ellis was a strong advocate for misdemeanor bail reform and critical of Ogg's late opposition to the settlement.[31][30]

A Harris County grand jury indicted three senior advisors to Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo in April 2022 on two public corruption felonies each. The charges, each first-degree felonies, involved allegedly steering an $11 million COVID vaccine outreach campaign to a one-person consulting firm owned by a Democratic strategist. The Texas Rangers investigated the cases. All three charges were eventually dismissed after a review of the evidence by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton. [41]

In December 2023, Kim Ogg was admonished by the local Democratic Party,[42] which alleged she "abused the power of her office to pursue personal vendettas against her political opponents, sided with Republicans to advance their extremist agenda, and stood in the way of fixing the broken criminal justice system."[43] She was defeated in the following March primary in a landslide.[44]

In August 2024, Ogg endorsed incumbent Republican Senator Ted Cruz against Democratic nominee and Congressman for Texas's 32nd congressional district Colin Allred.[45] She was later featured in an advertisement for Cruz.

In September 2024, Ogg appeared at a political gathering which urged citizens of the Greater Houston Area to "Vote Republican Judges."[46] Earlier that month, she appeared before the Kingwood Tea Party where she criticized several prominent Democrats for intentionally allowing crime to increase to conceal public corruption, adding that she believes those Democrats were allowing a "social experiment" that adversely impacts public safety.[47]

Fun fact, Kingwood is having one of those NoKing.org meetups to get graphic design materials and instructions to get paid protesting opportunities, probably. When we had our last protest and had to board up, NONE of the arrests were local. Not a single one. Anyway.

Kingwood is a very nice neighborhood and very affluent. Same for Sugarland. The only poor one that I saw on the map was over towards a Highway 290 Walmart. I know for a fact that a lot of immigrants are in that area and they sit around the local shops looking for jos, but it's right there between the poor and somewhat disgruntled part of Houston (a lot of Katrina refugees and other migrants live in or near this area) and also the richest. Much of the area and all of West Houston south of 290 below the NW section.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bots

My take on all this is that there are hidden agendas being played out. No issue this complicated is ever straightforward. Billionaires that pretend to support Trumps immigration plan, don't support it, people that pretend to be on the side of illegal immigrants, aren't. The definition of a criminal is subject to change depending on the weather. It's all about money and power and people feathering their own nests, nothing more, nothing less

I think the fact that the US has a gestapo these days, who straight up kidnap people off the streets, has naturally formed communities to step up and try to defend their friends and neighbours, is where the conflict originated.

The US is working hard to turn into a full autocracy, and obviously half the country doesn't want that so is resisting.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

Why? It's "mostly peaceful" isn't it?

No Alf,

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Bless them.

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

NO KINGS is a national day of action and mass mobilization in response to the increasing
authoritarian excesses and corruption of the Trump administration.

-----

Christy Ruth Walton is an American billionaire heiress and philanthropist. She is the
widow of John T. Walton, who was one of the sons of the Walmart founder Sam Walton.

When I showed hub, he said another officer was pulling up the site on his work laptop as he was leaving his shift, so word is getting around. It's probable they're going to call up at least some people soon because it seems counter protests are planned... and that's where the stupid tends to happen.

The last time we had protests like this and had to board up anything, every single arrest from that was out of town. That surprised the staff, but I'm not sure why they're that shocked? This is a city that has a mentality that isn't prone to riot behavior. Most are hardworking here, including Hispanics, and don't think well of people who have any kind of time to use it to get involved in nonsense.

Haven't seen anything on Nextdoor. It doesn't allow political posts, but that's never stopped anyone with busy fingers in the past...

[arista]

Press Secretary
Now Live SkyNewsHD

Talking about the illegals being arrested
In the Riot

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

Press Secretary
Now Live SkyNewsHD

Talking about the illegals being arrested
In the Riot

[Crimson Dynamo]

BREAKING: 330 illegal aliens were arrested for taking part in the LA riots.

113 of them have prior criminal convictions.

[Maru]

Abbott deploys Texas National Guard troops to San Antonio ahead of protests
https://www.expressnews.com/news/art...s-20371032.php

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has deployed National Guard troops to San Antonio in advance of planned protests in the city against a Trump administration crackdown on undocumented immigrants.

The San Antonio Police Department said Chief William McManus contacted state officials Monday night seeking to confirm the presence of guardsmen in the city.

SAPD CHIEF: 'We are prepared for a peaceful demonstration, and if something goes South'

McManus "was able to confirm that Gov. Greg Abbott deployed National Guard troops to San Antonio,” SAPD Assistant Chief Jesse Salame told the San Antonio Express-News.

State officials provided no other details, Salame said.

Without mentioning San Antonio specifically, Abbott's press secretary, Andrew Mahaleris, told the Express-News that National Guard soldiers "are on standby in areas where mass demonstrations are planned in case they are needed.

"Peaceful protests are part of the fabric of our nation, but Texas will not tolerate the lawlessness we have seen in Los Angeles," Mahaleris said in a statement Tuesday night. "Anyone engaging in acts of violence or damaging property will be swiftly held accountable to the full extent of the law."

[Alf]

Support your local businesses

Nothing but respect for this guy. Working for his money. Hopefully the criminals don't rob him.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Alf

Support your local businesses

Nothing but respect for this guy. Working for his money. Hopefully the criminals don't rob him.

Might as well

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Maru

Might as well

Look pretty good those dogs, is that bacon they're wrapped in. I'd buy one, with some of those onions on.

[Alf]

Even ÇNN are now admitting that the legal immigrants are now on the side of legal immigration and not illegal immigration. Just like Trump is.

Very likely always been the case, but now they've got no choice but to admit it, it seems.

It's just you lost people still supporting illegal immigration.

[Alf]

She's not wrong. This is very dangerous.

This is an attempted take over of the US and their people. Bolshevik like.

[Maru]

Kind of funny they have to hand out American flags because someone realized having a ton of Mexican flags probably doesn't look right:

And yeah, that sounds about right. We're terrible about organizing in America lol. That's why billionaires have to pay people to hand out "professional" signage so it doesn't just look like a pep rally full of college students taking selfies...

[bots]

it really doesn't matter. Trump can invoke the insurrection act whenever he chooses. Will the event on saturday pay hommage to the golden god child or will it be the start of a massacre of US citizens by their own armed forces. I geniunely have no idea which way it will go, but i do know that if trump wants to shoot people, he will

[arista]

USA Front Page from last Weds.

[arista]

Another USA Front Page last weds

[Alf]

Never been or more apt time to say this. So far.

Get em' Donnie.

[Maru]

We're thinking the sites for nokings on their website are to get gear and head downtown. 10a-12p in the morning so probably for pickup. One of the newstations locally put locations for it on social media.

[bots]

it will either be a non event or all hell will break loose, i have no idea which way it will go

[Maru]

It's not top of the headlines on all the sites (I haven't checked the TV, too busy today), but it has had a peaceful turnout here at multiple locations.

Thousands gather in downtown Houston as part of nationwide 'No Kings' protests
https://www.khou.com/article/news/lo...5-dec6622f29c1

Our politicians also are more sane:

Whitmire, Hidalgo reject federal aid for 'No Kings' protest in rare show of unity
https://www.chron.com/politics/artic...s-20373972.php

In a rare display of unity, Houston Mayor John Whitmire and Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo have jointly declared that the city does not require federal assistance to manage the planned "No Kings" protests scheduled for this Saturday. Their stance comes in response to a letter from U.S. Rep. Wesley Hunt (R-Houston), who characterized the demonstrations as potential "riots" and suggested federal intervention.

"But we're not other locations," he added. "I would really urge and allow all of us to stand united for peaceful demonstrations and do not let the disrupters infiltrate these groups that really have their own agenda ... in terms of responding to the letter—no, because it was not speaking to the city that we live in. It was just not relevant to our city and our society."

Numbers I saw were 26,000.

[Alf]

I think the nationsl guard will be moving in soon. Unlawful assembly?

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Alf

I think the nationsl guard will be moving in soon. Unlawful assembly?

No.

[arista]

Yes in Minnesota
They have asked for no protests
After the Politician
was murdered and is still at large