[Crimson Dynamo]

BBC bosses have backed a television presenter who corrected the phrase
“pregnant people” to “women” while broadcasting live, in what has been
welcomed as a rejection of ridiculous gender-neutral language.

Martine Croxall, 56, was citing a study about protecting vulnerable people in
hot weather and, after reading out the report’s phrasing, immediately rolled
her eyes and changed the wording to “women”.

“Malcolm Mistry, who was involved in the research, says that the aged,
pregnant people … women … and those with pre-existing health conditions
need to take precautions,” she said.

JK Rowling was among those to support the presenter, calling Croxall “her
new favourite BBC presenter” on X, and the former Wimbledon champion
Martina Navratilova also backed her.

Croxall added: “A huge thank you to everyone who has chosen to follow me
today for whatever reason. It’s been quite a ride.”

She has gained almost 50,000 followers on the social media platform since
the incident on Sunday afternoon.

BBC bosses are also understood to have been “intensely relaxed” about the
wording amid concerns from some staff that Croxall may have faced
disciplinary action.

Times

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Hallelujah. Good to see the height of female ambition is being called women. 31% of children in the UK live in poverty, but at least you've got a word

Careful, you'll be labelled "incel" soon.

[The Slim Reaper]

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What the heck did I just read?

That sounds horrible.

[Cherie]

Women can care about alot of things at the same time, we are great multitaskers and our brains are built for it

the good thing is that these horrible stories are American where they are a law unto themselves, or maybe the poster could post some Iranian footage where women are murdered for showing their hair, kinda funny to be honoring the guy who facilitates that in an avatar and then pretending to care about women, lol! and we luckily have a Supreme Court that honours womens rights

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Women can care about alot of things at the same time, we are great multitaskers and our brains are built for it

the good thing is that these horrible stories are American where they are a law unto themselves, or maybe the poster could post some Iranian footage where women are murdered for showing their hair, kinda funny to be honoring the guy who facilitates that in an avatar and then pretending to care about women, lol! and we luckily have a Supreme Court that honours womens rights

Indeed, Iran is the world’s top executioner of women

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

the good thing is that these horrible stories are American where they are a law unto themselves, or maybe the poster could post some Iranian footage where women are murdered for showing their hair, kinda funny to be honoring the guy who facilitates that in an avatar and then pretending to care about women, lol! and we luckily have a Supreme Court that honours womens rights

America is a law unto itself so we don't need to worry about focusing on their news stories, but we should instead talk about Iranian news stories....?

I think it's important to concentrate on U.S law because we're so closely linked with it. U.S is a Western country with supposedly Western values.

Laws in the Middle East are despicable for many, I don't think anyone will dispute that, but their values are so far removed from ours. Comparatively, and unfortunately, America is not that far away from us. Looking at the U.S is always wise because sometimes it can be an indicator of where the UK goes next. Iran is not.

I know you're only suggesting to talk about Iran because you believe liberals are scared of talking about the awful atrocities that often comes with Islamic regimes (I for one am not) but it happens so often on this site by a select few that instead some of you just come across like you're only interested in talking about the awful crimes committed by brown people.

Whenever conversation turns to horrific crimes that happens to be done by a white westerner, someone will pipe up with "how come you're not talking about what muslims are doing?"

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX

America is a law unto itself so we don't need to worry about focusing on their news stories, but we should instead talk about Iranian news stories....?

I think it's important to concentrate on U.S law because we're so closely linked with it. U.S is a Western country with supposedly Western values.

Laws in the Middle East are despicable for many, I don't think anyone will dispute that, but their values are so far removed from ours. Comparatively, and unfortunately, America is not that far away from us. Looking at the U.S is always wise because sometimes it can be an indicator of where the UK goes next. Iran is not.

I know you're only suggesting to talk about Iran because you believe liberals are scared of talking about the awful atrocities that often comes with Islamic regimes (I for one am not) but it happens so often on this site by a select few that instead some of you just come across like you're only interested in talking about the awful crimes committed by brown people.

Whenever conversation turns to horrific crimes that happens to be done by a white westerner, someone will pipe up with "how come you're not talking about what muslims are doing?"

No I didnt say that, I said the poster only ever concentrates on US stories and not other countries which have even more horiffic ways of dealing with women, all I was saying is its a bit rich to be talking about womens rights while supporting an Iranian regime, I will talk about crimes committed against women by anyone of any colour, so please dont paint me with that crime, I am not the one with an Iranian supporting avatar, dont tell you you dont think that is not hypocritical?

[Cherie]

The only other thing I would add to the above in response to this quote from you

Laws in the Middle East are despicable for many, I don't think anyone will dispute that, but their values are so far removed from ours.

correct, but we import boatloads of people every week whose values are far removed from ours but if anyone queries how this will impact on the country going forward they are shut down, and lets be clear not everyone arriving on a boat is brown

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What the heck did I just read?

That sounds horrible.

Hospitals are their own bit of crazy here, so there is that. They could have left them on LS due to perceived restriction. Could be a Dr encouraged them doing so as a protest vote. Hard to believe they would waste a bed for that, but brain dead pts cause headaches for many drs especially in states where religious views hold more water. Well known example is Jahi McMath who died via brain death and her mother fought tooth and nail to have her body moved to a state that would recognize her on religious grounds so she could keep her on life support indefinitely (including benefits). For that reason when people are diagnosed some doctors will encourage pulling them ASAP to avoid a potential extensive fight over it.

If the hospitals see risk for a suit, they are prone to do anything to avoid. Americans are very sue happy. It may not actually be required to keep them on LS but until someone spends the legal fees to get it answered by a judge, there needs to be precedent. It's expensive to be the first person to test a law because unless it is written explicitly that it certainly can't apply then that means it has to go through higher courts potentially to actually settle it. The hospitals front enough legal to know how expensive that is and there is also the PR while they make the legal claim to terminate a child that is going to get other types of attention (extreme activism) who will look up other malprac cases and drag them through the mud potentially. Depends on where they are.

Baby delivered prematurely from brain-dead woman on life support in Georgia
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...ort-in-georgia

Smith’s family said Emory doctors told them they were not allowed to remove the devices keeping her breathing because state law bans abortion after cardiac activity can be detected — generally around six weeks into pregnancy.

Georgia Republican Attorney General Chris Carr later issued a statement saying the law did not require medical professionals to keep a woman declared brain dead on life support.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

I wouldn't say this was heroic by any measure, except it is a middle finger to the BBC.

Many women I suspect are done giving a **** and "shifts" seen here by media are less common examples of that. I would not say just women, though. People in general are tired of third parties trying to create both language and emotional obstacles/challenges that bare no resemblance to how one actually lives their lives.

[arista]

[I wouldn't say this was heroic by that any measure,
except it is a middle finger to the BBC.]


Yes they need that more

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Women can care about alot of things at the same time, we are great multitaskers and our brains are built for it

the good thing is that these horrible stories are American where they are a law unto themselves, or maybe the poster could post some Iranian footage where women are murdered for showing their hair, kinda funny to be honoring the guy who facilitates that in an avatar and then pretending to care about women, lol! and we luckily have a Supreme Court that honours womens rights

When folks comment on the terrible treatment of these women in other countries, in an extremely selective manner I might add, then it just highlights it's completely performative.

You don't care about Iranian women anymore than you care about the daily massacre of women in Palestine. They're brown people far away to you. The same way that any time a story about the cruelty of the Taliban pops up on the forum, we have the same posters rush in to rightly condemn the absolute heinous conditions. Yet we see video (not news stories) of Palestinian women having their body parts scraped into rubbish bags on a daily basis, and suddenly there is nothing to say. That's the kind of feminism you indulge in. I can explain exactly how and why the conditions in those countries are the way they are, but you're not interested in history, it's all performance art. I hate muslims, so I'll ignore their slaughter, and use this story to push my narrative - just as your "import boatloads of them" comment from a later post highlights. They are just people trying to live their lives. Their values aren't' wildly different from yours. They love their families, and want to make a living, and live without fear. They are not sleeper cells, looking to blow up parliament every day. Just out of interest, do you think the west continually bombing these countries, and slaughtering their populations, will make them want to stay in their own countries or come to the UK in even higher numbers? If you can't see the destructive nature of cause and effect, then you're living in a fantasy land.

I'm not honouring Khamenei, I support the right of the Iranians to live without having Israel and the US bombing them them constantly.

Correct. You've got the supreme court ruling you wanted (which will eventually be overturned imo). Women have been protected; which is all anti-trans people on here said they wanted, but we know that's not enough to quench the thirst. Now we are going for the full removal of trans people from society.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No I didnt say that, I said the poster only ever concentrates on US stories and not other countries which have even more horiffic ways of dealing with women, all I was saying is its a bit rich to be talking about womens rights while supporting an Iranian regime, I will talk about crimes committed against women by anyone of any colour, so please dont paint me with that crime, I am not the one with an Iranian supporting avatar, dont tell you you dont think that is not hypocritical?

I don't view them as stories about the US. I view them about the increasingly dark mistreatment of women across the globe, but even more frighteningly, in the west. If you think what happens in the US doesn't eventually find it's way here, then you're not tethered to reality.

Reform are an anti-abortion party, and they will be the next governing party.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2759811.html

Farage abortion plans would have ‘catastrophic consequences for women’

Nigel Farage’s plans to restrict access to abortion would have “catastrophic consequences for women”, campaigners have warned.

The Reform UK leader this week said it is “ludicrous we allow abortion up to 24 weeks” and that the law is “totally out of date”.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Maru

Hospitals are their own bit of crazy here, so there is that. They could have left them on LS due to perceived restriction. Could be a Dr encouraged them doing so as a protest vote. Hard to believe they would waste a bed for that, but brain dead pts cause headaches for many drs especially in states where religious views hold more water. Well known example is Jahi McMath who died via brain death and her mother fought tooth and nail to have her body moved to a state that would recognize her on religious grounds so she could keep her on life support indefinitely (including benefits). For that reason when people are diagnosed some doctors will encourage pulling them ASAP to avoid a potential extensive fight over it.

If the hospitals see risk for a suit, they are prone to do anything to avoid. Americans are very sue happy. It may not actually be required to keep them on LS but until someone spends the legal fees to get it answered by a judge, there needs to be precedent. It's expensive to be the first person to test a law because unless it is written explicitly that it certainly can't apply then that means it has to go through higher courts potentially to actually settle it. The hospitals front enough legal to know how expensive that is and there is also the PR while they make the legal claim to terminate a child that is going to get other types of attention (extreme activism) who will look up other malprac cases and drag them through the mud potentially. Depends on where they are.

Baby delivered prematurely from brain-dead woman on life support in Georgia
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...ort-in-georgia

What are you on about? From the link you posted:

Smith’s family said Emory doctors told them they were not allowed to remove the devices keeping her breathing because state law bans abortion after cardiac activity can be detected — generally around six weeks into pregnancy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Other insiders said the mood music had changed at the BBC since Justin Webb, a Radio 4
Today show presenter, was censured last year for stating “transwomen, in other words,
males” on-air. “I think the fallout made them think: this is mad,” a source said.

It's understood BBC chairman Samir Shah was dismayed by the radio incident, which
took place before he joined the broadcaster.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

stupid cow India

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't view them as stories about the US. I view them about the increasingly dark mistreatment of women across the globe, but even more frighteningly, in the west. If you think what happens in the US doesn't eventually find it's way here, then you're not tethered to reality.

Reform are an anti-abortion party, and they will be the next governing party.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2759811.html

Farage abortion plans would have ‘catastrophic consequences for women’

Nigel Farage’s plans to restrict access to abortion would have “catastrophic consequences for women”, campaigners have warned.

The Reform UK leader this week said it is “ludicrous we allow abortion up to 24 weeks” and that the law is “totally out of date”.

and there you have it I am a Farage fan, though I have never once supported Reform or Farage, I am also Tommy Robinsons Mrs having never ever supported him either....just assumptions like he assumed I voted for Brexit, which I didn't he is a stereotype beyond all stereotypes.... hilarious if it weren't so pathetic

[Cherie]

File the proof I have supported either Slim..... have a great day finding it

[Crimson Dynamo]

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

and there you have it I am a Farage fan, though I have never once supported Reform or Farage, I am also Tommy Robinsons Mrs having never ever supported him either....just assumptions like he assumed I voted for Brexit, which I didn't he is a stereotype beyond all stereotypes.... hilarious if it weren't so pathetic

What on earth are you on about? You're the one making assumptions

My post had nothing to do with any of the things you mentioned. You talked about me bringing up US stories, so I was just stating that the next government will crack down on abortion. Abortion rights are 4 years away from being attacked over here, which is the exact start of the anti-women movements in the US.

Fcuking weird.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Aside from that article screenshot, these are the newest cervical cancer news pieces below, and all reference women. Even the article she has screenshot says "Since the coronavirus pandemic, cervical screening attendance rates for women and other people with cervixes have been steadily declining, from 72.2% in 2020 to 68.4% in 2024, NHS England data shows."

You can probably find other articles too, under one of the Guardians main content hubs, which is titled... erm... 'Women'.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...al-cancer-test

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...h-issue-survey

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...uts-risk-dying

You know when people talk about trying to create culture wars, it's those kids of tweets they're talking about. False information used to get people angry against specific demographics.

Also it's clear from that woman's feed she actually just hates any trans person who has any kind of visibility anywhere. She seems extremely hateful.

[Cherie]

I dont respond to Slim given he ranted like an A4 page against me, but its clear he quoted me and mentioned Farage, I have no control over who people vote for so its clear he is trying to link me to Farage, and then he calls me ****ing weird

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I dont respond to Slim given he ranted like an A4 page against me, but its clear he quoted me and mentioned Farage, I have no control over who people vote for so its clear he is trying to link me to Farage, and then he calls me ****ing weird

He didn't say you were a Farage fan in this thread, or link you with him...if you read his post you will see why he replied to you and mentioned Farage.