[Beso]

Seems politicians children should only come into play when it's Boris.

She must be a crapppy mother..up the duff at 15, leaving school pregnant at 16..gives birth to Ryan who went on to repeat his mother's mistakes making her a granny at 37, you would have hoped she might have tried harder with him..he seeen like the forgotten child..perhaps an embarrrasssment

[Zizu]

Surely what her son does reflects on her !?

Its all about standards and upbringing ..

Remember the old saying … “ I blame the parents “

She’s already on dodgy ground… didn’t she get pregnant with him at 14 or 15 or something ?


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[Beso]

Takes out a 5.5k bank loan for cosmetic surgery, hopefully to tidy things up a bit downstairs.

[bots]

i think the world has shown us over the last 10+ years, that people really don't care what politicians do or don't do in their lives. Look at Trump, look at Boris .... it doesn't stop them being elected. If Boris stood for a seat in parliament tomorrow, he would be voted in on a landslide. People that consider 1 MP a disgrace are happy to excuse almost anything from another. It's how the world is now, it's why we are all ****ed. There is absolutely no point in stressing over it because it isn't going to change

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

Do you mind!

I'm having my breakfast here.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are dead right..
It's absolutely ridiculous.

Tbh Joey, my main issue with the line of thinking is that it's a slippery slope imo.

If Zizu got his wish, he could see Politicians that he likes getting denied opportunities not for anything that they've done, but because it's a family member instead.

Then there's the possibility of some of this stuff being drafted into regular joe's workforce, where someone might be denied a promotion based on something that a family member did.

And let's face it, it wouldn't be the first time in Human history that a slippery slope happened.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Surely what her son does reflects on her !?

Its all about standards and upbringing ..

Remember the old saying … “ I blame the parents “

She’s already on dodgy ground… didn’t she get pregnant with him at 14 or 15 or something ?


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Being a parent and being the PM of the UK are different skill sets tbf.

[Oliver_W]

I don't much like her, but the actions of her son aren't her fault.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't much like her, but the actions of her son aren't her fault.

Well they may be ..

Our kids are extremely respectful of themselves and others .. they are both wonderfully caring human beings ..,


Who knew ..


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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well they may be ..

Our kids are extremely respectful of themselves and others .. they are both wonderfully caring human beings ..,


Who knew ..


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And that might not be down to you any more than Rayner's son is down to her.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

And that might not be down to you any more than Rayner's son is down to her.

… and yet ‘troubled kids and adults ’ usually have troubled upbringings ..


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[Beso]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Her cum face?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

… and yet ‘troubled kids and adults ’ usually have troubled upbringings ..


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Are you saying that falling into "sex work" is a sign of a troubled upbringing?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbh Joey, my main issue with the line of thinking is that it's a slippery slope imo.

If Zizu got his wish, he could see Politicians that he likes getting denied opportunities not for anything that they've done, but because it's a family member instead.

Then there's the possibility of some of this stuff being drafted into regular joe's workforce, where someone might be denied a promotion based on something that a family member did.

And let's face it, it wouldn't be the first time in Human history that a slippery slope happened.

Exactly this.
Nothing to add from me.

The day the chosen profession of sons, daughters or any other family members decide the worth of their parents or other siblings.
Would be indeed a slippery slope.

Plus anyhow, while it may be there's many other professions, it's NOT criminal or wrong to LEGALLY be part of the porn industry.
Absolutely ridiculous to try to destroy Raynor or in fact anyone else in this way.

I agree with you wholeheartedly on slippery slopes.
I fear very sadly the UK is going to be going down a fair few really dangerous and worrying slippery slopes in the future.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Are you saying that falling into "sex work" is a sign of a troubled upbringing?

It's a sign of a wealthy parent who would rather he did that than put her hand in her own pocket.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Are you saying that falling into "sex work" is a sign of a troubled upbringing?

We will never know… I’m thinking its more likely than if they came from a great family upbringing or even a wealthy one they wouldn’t fall into the sex industry


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly this.
Nothing to add from me.

The day the chosen profession of sons, daughters or any other family members decide the worth of their parents or other siblings.
Would be indeed a slippery slope.

Plus anyhow, while it may be there's many other professions, it's NOT criminal or wrong to LEGALLY be part of the porn industry.
Absolutely ridiculous to try to destroy Raynor or in fact anyone else in this way.

I agree with you wholeheartedly on slippery slopes.
I fear very sadly the UK is going to be going down a fair few really dangerous and worrying slippery slopes in the future.

I am only talking about the PRIME minister’s role …


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[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Zizu

We will never know… I’m thinking its more likely than if they came from a great family upbringing or even a wealthy one they wouldn’t fall into the sex industry


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He does porn so what
You are a dinosaur in the way you think
Some kids can be great but have parents that are embarrassing

You tend to have a thing for putting women down which is a dick thing to do

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I am only talking about the PRIME minister’s role …


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It shouldn't matter.
Not at all

We had a PM in Johnson who is a well documented philanderer, has had numerous different children from a range of partners.
Who broke a law he imposed on others.
However that didn't and should not have barred him from being elected as Prime Minister.
Absolutely.

Now if that shouldn't bar someone from being a PM, then whatever his or Raynors or even anyone else's children do most certainly shouldn't bar them either

However she IS NOT even the PM anyhow.
Nor on the face of things at present is she possibly likely to be.
So what on earth is the issue.
The porn industry is NOT even illegal.
Maybe you have an issue with that but it really IS NOT.

I've known families where the sons/ daughters go into work or get involved in things their parents would have preferred them not to.
Good grief, there's parents who aren't even in their son's/daughters lives.
Often cruelly cut off by their parents or they've cut out one or both of their parents.
Often for misunderstood or silly reasons.

Are those parents to blame in your eyes, and should those parents be barred from careers,
because of the actions and thinking of their grown up family?.
Really!

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It shouldn't matter.
Not at all

We had a PM in Johnson who is a well documented philanderer, has had numerous different children from a range of partners.
Who broke a law he imposed on others.
However that didn't and should not have barred him from being elected as Prime Minister.
Absolutely.

Now if that shouldn't bar someone from being a PM, then whatever his or Raynors or even anyone else's children do most certainly shouldn't bar them either

However she IS NOT even the PM anyhow.
Nor on the face of things at present is she possibly likely to be.
So what on earth is the issue.
The porn industry is NOT even illegal.
Maybe you have an issue with that but it really IS NOT.

I've known families where the sons/ daughters go into work or get involved in things their parents would have preferred them not to.
Good grief, there's parents who aren't even in their son's/daughters lives.
Often cruelly cut off by their parents or they've cut out one or both of their parents.
Often for misunderstood or silly reasons.

Are those parents to blame in your eyes, and should those parents be barred from careers,
because of the actions and thinking of their grown up family?.
Really!

So what if the porn industry is legal ..

Would you want your daughter involved in that particular profession ??

Exactly …


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

So what if the porn industry is legal ..

Would you want your daughter involved in that particular profession ??

Exactly …


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I have no children but hey, whatever any children I may yet have may do will be down to them, just as whatever I may have done in life is down to me.
Which should not in any shape or form have destroyed mine or my Parents careers.

Exactly what ??
Legal porn is included in filming as well as being a profession in the wider porn industry.
If nothing illegal is being done, just what is YOUR real problem.

I find more irritating irrational hate against certain women or even men than someone choosing to work in the porn industry.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have no children but hey, whatever any children I may yet have may do will be down to them, just as whatever I may have done in life is down to me.
Which should not in any shape or form have destroyed mine or my Parents careers.

Exactly what ??
Legal porn is included in filming as well as being a profession in the wider porn industry.
If nothing illegal is being done, just what is YOUR real problem.

I find more irritating irrational hate against certain women or even men than someone choosing to work in the porn industry.

So IF you have a daughter you would be ok with her going into the porn industry because it’s not illegal … is that you are saying ?


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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

So IF you have a daughter you would be ok with her going into the porn industry because it’s not illegal … is that you are saying ?


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Why do you care so much?

And not every action someone takes is a consequence of their upbringing.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

So IF you have a daughter you would be ok with her going into the porn industry because it’s not illegal … is that you are saying ?


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Yes absolutely.
IF it's what she was determined to do.
It would be immaterial what I thought anyhow, if she or even a son definitely chose to.
However I'd just want to support any ways I could.

We're not the jailors or controllers of the children we may have.
Of course we can try to guide them, however what they do with their lives is to be their choice.

I actually chose to follow my Dad into his career, however I don't think more of myself over others for doing that.