[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

So you agree then?

People are attacked for being gay, killed for being gay, discriminated against for being gay, disowned by family for being gay and that’s just in this country.

But yeah not being able to write racist tweets without repercussion is the same I guess.

In this country, your examples revolve around the Muslim communities, mainly.

In certain other countries it's mostly killed.

[Beso]

But I'm the baddy..


Like a Christmas Turkey.

[Beso]

Let's be real.


The world has shed enough tears for the gay community.

Other things are more important now.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

In this country, your examples revolve around the Muslim communities, mainly.

In certain other countries it's mostly killed.

I have condemned Islam over and over on here.

You’re obsessed with placing blame on minorities. It’s interesting, I’ve only ever received homophobic abuse from white British people.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

Let's be real.


The world has shed enough tears for the gay community.

Other things are more important now.

Nobody’s asking you to do anything, and you were the one who involved gay people into the conversation.

[BBXX]

Love how two straight men are the authority on homophobia. I remember one of you once saying you’ve never experienced homophobia as a straight man so therefore it didn’t exist

[Benjamin]

Unsure why we’re bringing homosexuality and homophobia into this.

Back on topic. I’m all for free speech, however a fair few people seem to grasp the concept of free speech as being able to say whatever they want without facing any repercussions. Such as the guy who openly said Keir Starmer should be assassinated. Sometimes things should be left in the head; just because you can say it, doesn’t mean you should say it.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I have condemned Islam over and over on here.

You’re obsessed with placing blame on minorities. It’s interesting, I’ve only ever received homophobic abuse from white British people.

Probably because they are the only areas you frequent.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Unsure why we’re bringing homosexuality and homophobia into this.

Back on topic. I’m all for free speech, however a fair few people seem to grasp the concept of free speech as being able to say whatever they want without facing any repercussions. Such as the guy who openly said Keir Starmer should be assassinated. Sometimes things should be left in the head; just because you can say it, doesn’t mean you should say it.

what the hell

[Ammi]

…with free speech, I do also feel that it has also had fragility in recent times and that has been/is being exploited by some who are less concerned with freedoms/rights of the people but more their own control and their own ethos/beliefs/mindsets being followed and gaining power and control…Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson, Nigel Farage…their own gain is the primary motivation, I think…which doesn’t make it freedom of speech at all but a fight for power and influence and the same as governments…’divide and conquer’, it’s all the same game and the public are still losing out to their own self promotions…

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Cherie

what the hell

Did you not hear about that?

Lemme find the post.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I’m sure all the precious flowers on here will condemn this?

@Cherie

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Nobody’s asking you to do anything, and you were the one who involved gay people into the conversation.

Yeah, but only because you mentioned straight white people.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

@Cherie

Well that is random, I assume he will be arrested and jailed for inciting violence, that is disgusting

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…with free speech, I do also feel that it has also had fragility in recent times and that has been/is being exploited by some who are less concerned with freedoms/rights of the people but more their own control and their own ethos/beliefs/mindsets being followed and gaining power and control…Elon Musk, Tommy Robinson, Nigel Farage…their own gain is the primary motivation, I think…which doesn’t make it freedom of speech at all but a fight for power and influence and the same as governments…’divide and conquer’, it’s all the same game and the public are still losing out to their own self promotions…

But if people tell you you can't say this or can't say that, your gonna say it more.


If they let you say it, then you will stop saying it.


No

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beso

But if people tell you you can't say this or can't say that, your gonna say it more.


If they let you say it, then you will stop saying it.


No

For some people no. If you give them free rein they will say whatever they want because they can, and will take any opportunity to do so.

See above about the guy and Keir Starmer.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Well that is random, I assume he will be arrested and jailed for inciting violence, that is disgusting

Hope not. Just a random bloke in the street speaking his mind. Jail the guy asking the questions if you're going down that route.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

For some people no. If you give them free rein they will say whatever they want because they can, and will take any opportunity to do so.

See above about the guy and Keir Starmer.

Yes...but thats because they are not supposed to say stuff like that.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Well that is random, I assume he will be arrested and jailed for inciting violence, that is disgusting

Hope so. In the current climate, it's just not an okay thing to say, even as a "joke".

(Obviously in any climate, but you know what I mean. When politicians and political speakers are being killed or facing repeated attempts, just don't.)

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beso

Hope not. Just a random bloke in the street speaking his mind. Jail the guy asking the questions if you're going down that route.

So you’ll condemn the people who celebrated Charlie Kirk’s assassination but it’s okay for this guy to say Kier Starmer should be assassinated?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Beso

Hope not. Just a random bloke in the street speaking his mind. Jail the guy asking the questions if you're going down that route.

Sorry Parm I cant agree with you on this, he might be a terrible PM but he doesn't deserve to be shot for doing a bad job

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Hope so. In the current climate, it's just not an okay thing to say, even as a "joke".

(Obviously in any climate, but you know what I mean. When politicians and political speakers are being killed or facing repeated attempts, just don't.)

Yes and I would imagine the shooting of Charlie Kirk fed this guys language, I fully expect him to be arrested and jailed and rightly so

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

So you’ll condemn the people who celebrated Charlie Kirk’s assassination but it’s okay for this guy to say Kier Starmer should be assassinated?

Yes..because I didn't condemn the people wanting Charlie dead before his death.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Beso

Yes..because I didn't condemn the people wanting Charlie dead before his death.

But it’s the same. They’re just saying what’s on their mind, which by your theory is fine.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Sorry Parm I cant agree with you on this, he might be a terrible PM but he doesn't deserve to be shot for doing a bad job



Yes and I would imagine the shooting of Charlie Kirk fed this guys language, I fully expect him to be arrested and jailed and rightly so

You dont need to apologise, we all have our own opinion.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

But it’s the same. They’re just saying what’s on their mind, which by your theory is fine.

I will condemn myself if kiers ever gets shot.

Which is hardly likely to happen due to his absence of public interaction. Think the last time i saw hin interact in public UK streets was when he got an earfull laying flowers in Southport.

Am I wrong?