[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I dont think the stats matter, if women are at risk even one woman, its one woman too much, do you not agree?

No one cares about stats if they are attacked

Everyone is at risk from everyone. Life is not free of threat or risk. As a wider society we focus on the biggest issues to mitigate the biggest risk and therefore to save the largest number of people. Thats why stats are important, because it gives focus to the issues that will help the greatest number of people.

Which is why it’s so illogical and dangerous and insincere when some of you focus on the small risks, the risks coming from 1% of the 1%’s of society.

I’m no longer having these conversations.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I dont think the stats matter, if women are at risk even one woman, its one woman too much, do you not agree?

No one cares about stats if they are attacked

I.got attacked, rather seriously but was thankfully unconscious from the off. Grimsby lads, down for the England Scotland game. Happened outside an ex celeb BB housemates place of work, a pub in leucester square. Andy the lefty tossbag that won or nearly won.

Anyway, only thing that bothered me was Grimsby was ranked statistically one of the worst places to visit in England.


So I think you are wrong Cherie, sometimes statistics do matter.


I was a statistic, an unsolved crime statistic.

[Beso]

Can you imagine what's going through his killers head right now.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Beso

Can you imagine what's going through his killers head right now.

Sadly, yes.

[bots]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Everyone is at risk from everyone. L

That is obviously not true. A woman in a woman only space is vulnerable to men. That is why they are women only spaces. They have already been identified as areas of high risk.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX;11692756[B

]Everyone is at risk from everyone[/B]. Life is not free of threat or risk. As a wider society we focus on the biggest issues to mitigate the biggest risk and therefore to save the largest number of people. Thats why stats are important, because it gives focus to the issues that will help the greatest number of people.

Which is why it’s so illogical and dangerous and insincere when some of you focus on the small risks, the risks coming from 1% of the 1%’s of society.

I’m no longer having these conversations.

Patently untrue, children are not a threat to adults for instance

I think its very disingenous of you to write off the risk to women from men

[Ammi]

Charlie Kirk statue commissioned for New College of Florida campus…

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2827840.html

Spoiler:

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Patently untrue, children are not a threat to adults for instance

I think its very disingenous of you to write off the risk to women from men

Well yes I think that goes without saying regarding children, maybe I should have caveated that however.

I think it’s laughable you’ve accused me of writing off danger women face from men when whenever I talk about it you and others constantly deflect to trans people as the risk.

I feel like I raise the factual statistics about risks women face on here more than most and am met with “trans ppl tho” which funnily enough you’ve never objected to. Even even I mention the risk women women face at the hands of their sons your pal diverts the subject to domestic violence in gay relationships.

But yeh, sure, I’m the one writing off risks women face.

[BBXX]

Fox News: Charlie Kirk said there was no such thing as hate speech.
Trump: He might not be saying that now.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Well yes I think that goes without saying regarding children, maybe I should have caveated that however.

I think it’s laughable you’ve accused me of writing off danger women face from men when whenever I talk about it you and others constantly deflect to trans people as the risk.

I feel like I raise the factual statistics about risks women face on here more than most and am met with “trans ppl tho” which funnily enough you’ve never objected to. Even even I mention the risk women women face at the hands of their sons your pal diverts the subject to domestic violence in gay relationships.

But yeh, sure, I’m the one writing off risks women face.

The discussion was about statistics.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

The discussion was about statistics.

It's pointless replying to me moving forward Beso, I'm no longer wasting my time in having a debate with you.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Trumpet putting everything in a nutshell for the hard of thinking.

[Crimson Dynamo]

BOOM 💥 Megyn Kelly brings the receipts

FBI is looking into (7) accounts linked to Lance Twiggs

All of these posts from these accounts have cryptic messages, and Kelly asks after reading them, how did they all know this was about to happen to Charlie Kirk ?

It would appear he didn't do this alone

Video with the messages here: https://x.com/Chicago1Ray/status/1969219687922745811

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Well yes I think that goes without saying regarding children, maybe I should have caveated that however.

I think it’s laughable you’ve accused me of writing off danger women face from men when whenever I talk about it you and others constantly deflect to trans people as the risk.

I feel like I raise the factual statistics about risks women face on here more than most and am met with “trans ppl tho” which funnily enough you’ve never objected to. Even even I mention the risk women women face at the hands of their sons your pal diverts the subject to domestic violence in gay relationships.

But yeh, sure, I’m the one writing off risks women face.

Actually you have completely misrepresented me I have always said it's men jumping on the trans self ID bandwagon ...and I have asked multiple times why trans people do no speak out ..,do you dispute this is what I have posted

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

BOOM �� Megyn Kelly brings the receipts

FBI is looking into (7) accounts linked to Lance Twiggs

All of these posts from these accounts have cryptic messages, and Kelly asks after reading them, how did they all know this was about to happen to Charlie Kirk ?

It would appear he didn't do this alone

Video with the messages here: https://x.com/Chicago1Ray/status/1969219687922745811

Their text message chain didn't sound that natural to me, given, it was a very uncommon conversation to be had.

I just thought it was really weird the roommate only made one actual statement. The rest were questions and reactions and the murderer just kept giving away and filling in all this detail unprompted like it's a normal Discord conversation. He had to have known deleting texts wouldn't have stopped them from figuring out what was said. I think at least the killer's side in that conversation was total bullcrap, imo.

He called where he left the gun a "drop point" to someone who supposedly wouldn't understand what that meant. I wonder if he was signaling to him to go try to pick it up as hey I left it at the preplanned drop point... duh.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

It's pointless replying to me moving forward Beso, I'm no longer wasting my time in having a debate with you.

A PM on the matter would have been politer.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Actually you have completely misrepresented me I have always said it's men jumping on the trans self ID bandwagon ...and I have asked multiple times why trans people do no speak out ..,do you dispute this is what I have posted

And I’ve asked you multiple times why you expect trans people to speak out for the crimes of men.

But unless you have spoken to every trans person, you cannot claim they don’t. I’m sure they hate the fact that men co-opt their identity to assault women. In doing this you are putting the onus on trans people, the responsibility of the crime, on trans people. The very fact you never ask the straight cis men of the forum why they don’t speak out on the crimes of straight men, why they don’t speak out on their fellow straight men who are co-opting trans identities to sexually assault women is odd to me. It’s their demographic doing it. Do you not find it weird that every time Beso and CD are presented with statistics showing that straight, white, conservative men in a negative light they never call it out, they never speak up, they never hold them accountable. They shift the conversation so often to gay people, to people of colour, to trans people, to leftists.

Even early in this thread, when your pal pretended trans people were a huge issue when it came to mass shooting - and I gave figures proving the opposite - even then you ignored the fact they are less likely to be a mass shooter, you called into question why any trans mass shooters existed. You didn’t question why cis, right wingers were far more likely to be a mass shooters, you just questioned why trans mass shooters existed, totally ignoring the statistics.

Again and again you hold trans people to this impossible standard that you never hold cis men to. You deflect and you allow others to deflect and then you pivot and embolden the anti-trans rhetoric of your fellow members.

[BBXX]

Look Cherie, you obviously have your right to reply and that’s fair but I don’t want to argue with you anymore, so I won’t be replying any further once you’ve replied.

There is not much more I can say and I don’t want to just keep on debating with people.

All the best.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Charlie Kirk statue commissioned for New College of Florida campus…

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2827840.html

Spoiler:

That maintenance bill is going to suck for the time-being.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Turning Point UK 🇬🇧
@TPointUK
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3h
One of our supporters had this through the door today - she has a Charlie Kirk tribute on her house.

The silent majority stands with Charlie.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by BBXX

And I’ve asked you multiple times why you expect trans people to speak out for the crimes of men.

But unless you have spoken to every trans person, you cannot claim they don’t. I’m sure they hate the fact that men co-opt their identity to assault women. In doing this you are putting the onus on trans people, the responsibility of the crime, on trans people. The very fact you never ask the straight cis men of the forum why they don’t speak out on the crimes of straight men, why they don’t speak out on their fellow straight men who are co-opting trans identities to sexually assault women is odd to me. It’s their demographic doing it. Do you not find it weird that every time Beso and CD are presented with statistics showing that straight, white, conservative men in a negative light they never call it out, they never speak up, they never hold them accountable. They shift the conversation so often to gay people, to people of colour, to trans people, to leftists.

Even early in this thread, when your pal pretended trans people were a huge issue when it came to mass shooting - and I gave figures proving the opposite - even then you ignored the fact they are less likely to be a mass shooter, you called into question why any trans mass shooters existed. You didn’t question why cis, right wingers were far more likely to be a mass shooters, you just questioned why trans mass shooters existed, totally ignoring the statistics.

Again and again you hold trans people to this impossible standard that you never hold cis men to. You deflect and you allow others to deflect and then you pivot and embolden the anti-trans rhetoric of your fellow members.

An impossible standard, there have been multiple examples of men jumping on the trans bandwagon, but nary a word from actual trans people;...give it up seriously.....I defect...lol you need to have a serious look at yourself

[Cherie]

You know the other weird thing in your responses to me is you bring other members into it, I respond to an individual post, I dont post as part of a group, I am me and will always be me ...hope you get that, I never refer to you in terms of other members though you might have similar thoughts so please give me the same space....

[emseateng2014]

i wonder what people from the left around the world on earth 1 is gonna say about a charlie kirk statue at collage campus

because most of us do know and remember what happened to most of the right wing statues in canada uk and usa after george floyd died

Originally Posted by Ammi

Charlie Kirk statue commissioned for New College of Florida campus…

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2827840.html

Spoiler: