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![]() Violent Antifa criminals have laid siege to the ICE detention center in Portland, Oregon, for over 100 days. (Oct 1st) https://nypost.com/2025/10/01/us-new...leaning-it-up/ Quote:
Portland Police arrested the conservative influencer Nick Sortor as they moved in on disorder at a protest outside an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility in the Oregon city. https://apnews.com/article/nick-sort...fc1961c531e45a Quote:
Quick highlight clip from tonight's feed to show how these events look and feel: It looks like an after school gathering with rap music in a very GTA-ish environment, Cookie Monster walking around in a friendly/menacing(?) manner, someone with a dog squeaky toy occasionally and tonight featured a Charlie Kirk supporter on a megaphone barking at the guy with the boombox.... Other information that explains who some of these people are: Antifa FAQs: Where Did Antifa Come From? https://capitalresearch.org/article/antifa-faqs-part-2/ Spoiler: Rose City Antifa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_City_Antifa Quote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijPWnhzf8qE
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Latest updates: Large protest gathers outside Portland ICE facility https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la...ay/ar-AA1NRriv
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Water cannons please
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What the hell... this was found in Manchester... (I don't want to create another thread for this lol)...
Timestamp @6:00 — saves you 6 minutes of someone going oooh an abandoned building... S: https://youtu.be/Cn0Fc1xg9R0?si=mq7LfKwmFsECjYMV&t=371 It's crazy interesting to me. They walk in and it's like hobo artist alley run by cyberpunk people... (Ignore the God awful clickbaity thumbnail)
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It would probably turn the streets into rainbow with all the arts and crafts people carrying random supplies. These people are very artsy.
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From the Manchester, UK Antifa location:
It's like a scene out of a grunge-y 80s movie when you find the warehouse with all the criminals doing their favorite things... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Person Unknown Festival: https://www.instagram.com/pufestival/ ![]() Edit: lol... the description... it reads so innocuous, but then it's not false advertising. There are all those things... ![]()
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Fox News clip, but it has a guy who grew up in Seattle and had joined similar groups in 9th grade doing their recruiting. Portland is about 2 hrs from Portland and both have concentrations of these politics there so it's not surprising. So yeah, just kinda proves it's something young people are being exposed to earlier on and getting pulled into....
He was asked if "Violence was a core mission of the group?"... he paused and said "At that age, yes, it was a perk". I don't like how much the host leads with questions after this point. I get they have to keep it short, but yeah... He must've been out of it for a while because his voice is coming through without a filter and his eyes are easy enough to read. I think if he were current he would be pretty easy to identify...
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![]() US Border Patrol agents shoot armed woman in Chicago after being ‘boxed in’ by cars https://nypost.com/2025/10/04/us-new...ed-in-by-cars/ Quote:
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We're starting to see some old school sh** (historical power plays between State and Federal). State-level sovereignty comes into play after a point and they will be at the center when it comes to reshaping domestic politics within/across the US. We'll see what happens with the courts, but it's certainly politically provocative he's grabbing CA troops to send straight into OR...
(Again, all the result of Congress forfeiting their duties ![]() Trump defies federal court, sends 300 California National Guard troops to Portland, Oregon: ‘On their way there now’ https://nypost.com/2025/10/05/us-new...rtland-oregon/ Quote:
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Tonight's live feed for the Portland ICE facility:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoljCLf7onQ Cars are honking and woo-ing for helicopters now. More people coming in. ![]() They're telling ICE officers on the roof, "You could just quit your job!"
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this is like john carpenters escape from new york and the sequel john carpenters escape from la
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Yes, they were asking him for his comment on important topics and he was more interested in checking if the fuzzy bits were edible.
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George & Alexis Warr!
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i mean ICE taking on illegal migrants okay, but this is going way too far now
people should have the right to protest, otherwise it no longer is a democracy and tbh ICE deporting homeless people is a no go, if Trump wants there to be lesser homeless people, maybe build more homes, is that an idea?
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Nick Sortor was assaulted. I have opinions about this because I saw this live...
While this was going on, the other guy who had gotten picked up the other day for screaming at the boom box man whose name is "Tommy" I believe decked one of the Antifa people and knocked them completely out. Nick Sortor then is saying well, it's not right they can't walk a public sidewalk and they get to take it over... his logic "We don't have a country even if you can't even walk down a sidewalk".. Right now they're setting up to march the streets through the public sidewalk which is definitely not going to inflame things. Meanwhile another person is screaming "Portland is not a warzone!"... so I guess another point they're possibly trying to make is that if they can't march through the sidewalk and are attacked, then it may actually prove the point... Edit: And now they're all on the other side of the street merging with the other crowd and some are breaking out the weed....
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Listening/watching the live feed on and off and here's a summary:
It's cartoon characters mixed in with people marching with flags up and down the road. People are picking fights and soap-boxing over previous grievances that either happened earlier that day or on a different day loudly over a megaphone or just loudly in the center of different crowds talking to different people. Lots of drama and very intense. At the same time there are different groups trying different tactics to piss off the other side without being too provocative while dozens of cameras and other bystanders are watching. It's just like a typical X/social media feed, but in real life. Every one of them could make this go by away very quickly by signing out and going home but most stay because of the spectacle. Hearing air horns and superchats going off all around. Just heard Eric Cartman's voice coming off of someone's phone. The dog squeeky toys are back and some random girl is yelling at people about billionaires on a megaphone and about how they "don't care about you". Someone just asked her if she has an Only Fans and she's heckling them back. Also, Jesus just walked down the street and waved to the crowd. Annd the Palestine flag came out not too long after that lol. Ironic. Chicago's protests has more conflict but the police will respond back with UoF/hands on crowd control. Portland PD doesn't want to do anything at all so it's mostly just them standing around with radios.
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The Federal govt is allowed to call armies from different states. That's why they're called the National Guard. National Guard (United States) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...(United_States) Quote:
They're effectively a reserve army that can be dispatched more easily in many cases. Employers aren't allowed to fire people who serve when called up and they have to maintain their training.
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ive heard a lot of commentators talking about civil war, but i really don't see it happening. The difference in capability between the government and the people makes it as close to impossible as you could get.
There may be unrest, but when the national guard start killing civilians, it will soon be over |
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For 1) Virtually nothing that is happening today hasn't happened across our entire history. There's a fundamental tension between Federal and State that exists and it's by design. Edit: In that way, they're designed to cooperate until they don't and that's where bigger majorities may develop, things that can alter/amend the Constitution. 2) When most people talk about civil war, they're usually referring to a situation where it's The People as a sovereign entity rising up vs the Federal Govt. That's not how it will work. What will happen is the States individually will start to bulk and this effects Federal through our representation (Congress). And yes, States arming themselves up between both its armed populace and militia/troops is our version of a civil war but there's too many avenues and steps that can be taken politically for that to be really necessary unless there is an outright invasion and it becomes an emergency. Sending troops to Portland to secure a federal facility doesn't count. That said, I have been listening to livestreams and a general consensus is that Portland itself is safe. Even one of the MAGA people there (a German immigrant of 30 years) had said he thought this was a "mouse trap"-like situation where they were using the threat of troops to get enough extremists to come out of the woodwork so they could clean them out.
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