[Beso]

In the sneak peak, talking about Sam Nancy and Caroline he says. Them, Nancy and Caroline.

Sam said he's not into all that nonsense on the first HL show.

[Oliver_W]

Sam also said he doesn't mind what pronouns people use - "you can't say the wrong thing with good intentions", or something like that.

In Zelah's case, I think it's just overly performative.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Sam also said he doesn't mind what pronouns people use - "you can't say the wrong thing with good intentions", or something like that.

In Zelah's case, I think it's just overly performative.

What about, the wrong thing with bad intentions

[Swan]

Sam was called she, and he on L&L last night, AJ had to correct the people calling Sam he or she with "they". So i dunno, maybe Sam has said something in the DR we haven't seen. But seems a lot of others are confused too.

[Ammi]

…I just re-watched the vid and I think/my understanding is that Zelah says that he’s finding it hard to trust Sam atm, ‘that little trio’…but he hadn’t said who the trio were so adds Nancy and Caroline as the other two because he’s already named Sam….’them’ just means the ‘little trio’, is my understanding…

[Beso]

Maybe the whole episode will clear it up.

He was really funny though, Sam that is. Not Zelah.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I just re-watched the vid and I think/my understanding is that Zelah says that he’s finding it hard to trust Sam atm, ‘that little trio’…but he hadn’t said who the trio were so adds Nancy and Caroline as the other two because he’s already named Sam….’them’ just means the ‘little trio’, is my understanding…

I thought that too, that's how i took it anyway, But who knows, it's difficult to comprehend when referring to a single person as "them". It just seems like a very alien concept, maybe in a few years and using the "they/them" pronouns will become less confusing

[Shaun]

I'm sure there was a conversation in the first week where Sam said they don't really mind which pronouns are used but prefers 'they' as they're non-binary? I don't have the quote/clip, though.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I'm sure there was a conversation in the first week where Sam said they don't really mind which pronouns are used but prefers 'they' as they're non-binary? I don't have the quote/clip, though.

…is this it, Shaun…?…

Youtube video

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…is this it, Shaun…?…

Youtube video

I remember that too yeah but I'm sure there was mention of the "they/them" pronouns very early on in the series too because I picked up on it and preferred to use it.

[Abra]

Marcus referred to Sam as "they" too. I guess it's just a personal choice since Sam has said any pronoun is fine

[bots]

when i was a lad calling people they/them was considered very impolite

[Crimson Dynamo]

The psychology is that it makes marginalised people feel important. Feeling important is a fundamental human need

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Beso

In the sneak peak, talking about Sam Nancy and Caroline he says. Them, Nancy and Caroline.

Sam said he's not into all that nonsense on the first HL show.

Sam has a twin called Pam.

[Vicky.]

Will did it too

[OnTheRight]

Because we live in a twisted world.

[QueenAmy]

Originally Posted by Abra

Marcus referred to Sam as "they" too. I guess it's just a personal choice since Sam has said any pronoun is fine

Yeah, Sam said this in the Secret Room!

But also, it's really not difficult to just be nice to somebody. If you go out of your way to disrespect somebody then it's very telling of the person you are

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by OnTheRight

Because we live in a twisted world.

The social contagion has now been exposed and is dying.

Those who supported it will now face the consequences

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…is this it, Shaun…?…

Youtube video

Not caring about pronouns is the new 'Bi' of the gay world.

I remember a time when bi people were looked down on by 'real' gays.

If you don't choose a hardline pronoun and then insist others obey it you are not 'real' and are just a 'people pleaser'... It's really extreme gatekeeping and pretty vile.

This conversation should have been called out more by self professed liberals at the time.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

The social contagion has now been exposed and is dying.

Those who supported it will now face the consequences

But isn't that the other extreme?

[Cherie]

One of the gay guests on Late and Live was calling him She the other night even the gays are confused at this stage

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But isn't that the other extreme?

agree

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But isn't that the other extreme?

There is no extreme in truth

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

The social contagion has now been exposed and is dying.

Those who supported it will now face the consequences

What are these said consequences?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Cherie

One of the gay guests on Late and Live was calling him She the other night even the gays are confused at this stage

A lot of the gay community are actually against all the modern version of it all.

I have several LGB friends that aggressively hate all the modern US imported woke crap and just want to get back to how it was in the 90s gay culture wise.