[Esploded]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Sam is single and Zelah very very clearly misled him. He announced he was free.to explore connections as agreed to by his girlfriend.

He never said that at all he literally replayed the clip to both of them and that was not said. Nancy just told Sam thats what it meant.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the arrogance of Zelah is astounding

[bots]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

the arrogance of Zelah is astounding

we all know zelah was your secret crush of 2025

[Masterchief117]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

the arrogance of Zelah is astounding

I just can't stand how ****ing woke he is. Did you see his arm reach out when Caroline kissed Richard ? Like "NO, DON'T KISS WITHOUT CONSENT FIRST". And then Richard made a joke about the kiss and everyone laughed instead. Will and AJ are the same, and ITV in general, but my god, Zelah is like CAPTAIN WOKE. He's the living embodiment of PC Principal from South Park

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You should watch last nights ep .... it was great AJ and Will went in on the HMs

Seconded, @Mystic Mock. It starts after first ad break. It's what the entire season should've been condensed into a segment where they all have to confront. You can turn off for the rest lol.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It was such a funny L&L episode last night. Sam and zelah were exposed and shown up badly

absolute pair of tits

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

It was such a funny L&L episode last night. Sam and zelah were exposed and shown up badly

absolute pair of tits

Last night they both faired far better than that awful Jenny creature which shows how bad she was .

Crazy thing is she got good edits throughout the series and still managed to self destruct

[Masterchief117]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Last night they both faired far better than that awful Jenny creature which shows how bad she was .

Crazy thing is she got good edits throughout the series and still managed to self destruct

It was so damn funny when they showed the clip of her slagging Cameron off, and you could see the gears turning in her head trying to think of an excuse, and then when she said it Caroline just called out her bullsh1t. Cameron didn't care anyway because he's a total simp, but... so funny.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Masterchief117

It was so damn funny when they showed the clip of her slagging Cameron off, and you could see the gears turning in her head trying to think of an excuse, and then when she said it Caroline just called out her bullsh1t. Cameron didn't care anyway because he's a total simp, but... so funny.

So very true !


I don’t think Cameron could actually believe what he was watching and was aware that the cameras were focused on him for his reaction

[rusticgal]

I recall Zelah telling Sam and Nancy that his g/f said he was free to explore a romantic interest…I recall discussing it on this forum as he had previously said he was in a monogamous relationship…

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I recall Zelah telling Sam and Nancy that his g/f said he was free to explore a romantic interest…I recall discussing it on this forum as he had previously said he was in a monogamous relationship…

Zelah was definitely giving off mixed messages,

[Maru]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I recall Zelah telling Sam and Nancy that his g/f said he was free to explore a romantic interest…I recall discussing it on this forum as he had previously said he was in a monogamous relationship…

I question how serious his relationship is, not whether there was cheating. She was sweeping for him hard after the way he came off in the edit. He picked whichever label made him look the best in the moment and as we know, Zelah is very concerned with both being and coming off as being on a moral high ground. Taking away that, I don't think it would be nearly as scandalous. So that's why I think his behavior with Sam was so scandalous I think, is that he would want to have such tight controls over others as to how they act and speak and yet he was being careless with Sam, someone he barely knew.

He can't say "Well, Sam & I actually have X-style relationship", the public just didn't see it etc and I thought it was OK..."... they didn't really know each other at all even with weeks in the house and that's not enough time to relax boundaries and act in a loose way without being misunderstood. You need more solid connections than that and it's not easily built while inside a social experiment aka pressure cooker.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Maru

He picked whichever label made him look the best in the moment and as we know, Zelah is very concerned with both being and coming off as being on a moral high ground. .

That’s it in a nutshell…

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You should watch last nights ep .... it was great AJ and Will went in on the HMs

I will give it a look at some point during the week.
@Maru

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bots

we all know zelah was your secret crush of 2025

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Masterchief117

It was so damn funny when they showed the clip of her slagging Cameron off, and you could see the gears turning in her head trying to think of an excuse, and then when she said it Caroline just called out her bullsh1t. Cameron didn't care anyway because he's a total simp, but... so funny.

Tbf friends can bitch about each other in the heat of the moment, and still be friends at the end of it.

If I was in Cameron's shoes I would have a similar mindset to him I think, whether it was a female friend or a male friend that had been slagging me off behind my back.

Because it's honestly not that deep.

[Masterchief117]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf friends can bitch about each other in the heat of the moment, and still be friends at the end of it.

If I was in Cameron's shoes I would have a similar mindset to him I think, whether it was a female friend or a male friend that had been slagging me off behind my back.

Because it's honestly not that deep.

Except Jenny was slagging him off for no good reason, she was just being a selfish pig as usual. He's been following her around like a puppy the whole time, if she kicked him in the nuts he wouldn't mind. Notice that Nancy and Sam didn't slag each other off, and yet Jenny and Cameron won best duo, hilarious.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Masterchief117

Except Jenny was slagging him off for no good reason, she was just being a selfish pig as usual. He's been following her around like a puppy the whole time, if she kicked him in the nuts he wouldn't mind. Notice that Nancy and Sam didn't slag each other off, and yet Jenny and Cameron won best duo, hilarious.

Whatever Nancy and Sam's dynamic was like in the house isn't going to be how every friendship will operate, look at Marcello and Sarah last year for example being very different to both friendships being talked about on this thread from this series.

And people don't always bitch about one of their friends for a good reason tbf, otherwise they probably wouldn't be friends anymore if there was a really good reason for an argument to break out between them.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Masterchief117

Except Jenny was slagging him off for no good reason, she was just being a selfish pig as usual. He's been following her around like a puppy the whole time, if she kicked him in the nuts he wouldn't mind. Notice that Nancy and Sam didn't slag each other off, and yet Jenny and Cameron won best duo, hilarious.

Is there any chance it is cultural? Here it's normal to talk **** to each other but you would expect it back pretty much. Cameron and Jenny seemed they could be vibing on that level. Or at least I had thought that they could be. I'm a dumb American, so what do I know.

I would deign to say that does make them best duo because as you say, Jenny could simply **** on the kitchen table in front of the whole house and Cameron would still come to bat for her.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Blaming Sam for what?

I don't watch L&L.

I have loved the entire BB 2025. But like you skipped the after show.