[Benjamin]

Considering some of the posts today, and general experiences from my life when i lived in London/Brighton/Exeter I want to put this discussion to the forum.



How come a gay club refuses entry to straight people and is allowed to do that, but if a straight club did it to a gay person it would be a form of homophobia?


Surely the gay clubs are a bit Heterophobic?

Some people have spoke to say it's because straights cause trouble, but most straight people I know have no issue, and Gay men are just as likely to cause a fight or bitch fest.


Gay pride is all about celebrating gay's being equals, yet I sometimes find the 'Gay world' a bit hypocritcal because sometimes we don't treat others as equals???


What's the forums opinions on this (please no spats or arguments, just people's opinions).

[Axiom]

I'd say the word you're looking for is "heterophobic" not "straightophobic"

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by Axiom
I'd say the word you're looking for is "heterophobic" not "straightophobic"

I prefer straightophobic. lol.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Simple- minority-majority...Do you see straights goin about asking for Straight rights? No that would be silly, they have it anyway and straight people have never had to fight prejudice against straights lol

[arista]

Clubs do what they want
but it is in order to not get fights
so it is Common Sense.


Unless you want punch Ups.


What a silly thread.
You can not change peoples views.

[MrGaryy]

I think gay clubs are necessary as it's hard for gay people to find others in a normal club situations. It;s hard in general for gays to find a partner.

[Fom]

Originally posted by ukturtle
Considering some of the posts today, and general experiences from my life when i lived in London/Brighton/Exeter I want to put this discussion to the forum.



How come a gay club refuses entry to straight people and is allowed to do that, but if a straight club did it to a gay person it would be a form of homophobia?


Surely the gay clubs are a bit Heterophobic?

Some people have spoke to say it's because straights cause trouble, but most straight people I know have no issue, and Gay men are just as likely to cause a fight or bitch fest.


Gay pride is all about celebrating gay's being equals, yet I sometimes find the 'Gay world' a bit hypocritcal because sometimes we don't treat others as equals???


What's the forums opinions on this (please no spats or arguments, just people's opinions).

I don't know about you but I have never seen a club that turns away straight people... these clubs and events are where gay people can go and celebrate themselves and feel safe... being able to kiss in a club and not get beat up.
If straight people want to go nothing is stopping them, seriously, have you seen straight people being turned away?

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by arista
Clubs do what they want
but it is in order to not get fights
so it is Common Sense.


Unless you want punch Ups.


What a silly thread.
You can not change peoples views.

Erm it's not silly.

and I'm not trying to change people's minds.

I'm asking questions on people's thoughts. I've been to many Gay clubs and most of the trouble caused is by gay men/lesbians, not straight people.

[Noel]

Any gay club I know allows straight people to enter? How can they refuse entry to a straight person and how can they even determine everyone's sexuality?
I get what you mean though. The whole point of Gay Pride is for equality, so in theory, that means there should be no difference.
But I know if a flamboyantly gay guy went into some thuggish football supporting pub, they would be bound to get some abuse.

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by Fom

I don't know about you but I have never seen a club that turns away straight people... these clubs and events are where gay people can go and celebrate themselves and feel safe... being able to kiss in a club and not get beat up.
If straight people want to go nothing is stopping them, seriously, have you seen straight people being turned away?

Yep, my mate once got turned away for 'looking too straight'. He got well pissy, because he was gay, but the bouncers wouldn't believe him.

[Lauren]

I've never seen a gay club turn away a straight person? How can they tell anyway?

[arista]

Originally posted by ukturtle

Erm it's not silly.

and I'm not trying to change people's minds.

I'm asking questions on people's thoughts. I've been to many Gay clubs and most of the trouble caused is by gay men/lesbians, not straight people.

Yes it is Silly
you are asking why they refuse straight folks?


Its because they do not want Fights.



Silly Thread
you have made.

[Fom]

Originally posted by ukturtle

Yep, my mate once got turned away for 'looking too straight'. He got well pissy, because he was gay, but the bouncers wouldn't believe him.

Well that is that one club, you get arsey bouncers like that. I went to a normal club and a friend got turned away because he had no girls with him. Stuff like this happens but don't judge all gay clubs turning away straight people, that was probably one time... and a stupid thing for the bouncer to do.

I don't get the argument, straight people complain about gay clubs when there are about 20 times more straight clubs. Because essentially straight clubs do the same, they could not let someone in for looking too gay, they are mainly full of straight people and if a gay person walks in they get treated differently. If you dont like gay clubs dont go, but straight people are welcome, I work in a gay bar and if im honest it is mostly straight people in there but it is a place where the straight people accept guys kiss guys and they can freely stand at the bar kissing!

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by arista

Yes it is Silly
you are asking why they refuse straight folks?


Its because they do not want Fights.



Silly Thread
you have made.

then no offence don't bother posting it. Find somewhere else mate.


I can assure you most fights in gay clubs are caused by gay men themselves fighting with each other, not straight men.

[Locke.]

Originally posted by Fom

I don't know about you but I have never seen a club that turns away straight people... these clubs and events are where gay people can go and celebrate themselves and feel safe... being able to kiss in a club and not get beat up.
If straight people want to go nothing is stopping them, seriously, have you seen straight people being turned away?

Pink in Liverpool City Centre.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by David

Pink in Liverpool City Centre.

Probably chavs

[arista]

Originally posted by ukturtle

then no offence don't bother posting it. Find somewhere else mate.


I can assure you most fights in gay clubs are caused by gay men themselves fighting with each other, not straight men.

As a member
I can Post and Prove a Silly Thread.

I do not need to find some place else.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Probably chavs

trufax.

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by Fom

Well that is that one club, you get arsey bouncers like that. I went to a normal club and a friend got turned away because he had no girls with him. Stuff like this happens but don't judge all gay clubs turning away straight people, that was probably one time... and a stupid thing for the bouncer to do.

I don't get the argument, straight people complain about gay clubs when there are about 20 times more straight clubs. Because essentially straight clubs do the same, they could not let someone in for looking too gay, they are mainly full of straight people and if a gay person walks in they get treated differently. If you dont like gay clubs dont go, but straight people are welcome, I work in a gay bar and if im honest it is mostly straight people in there but it is a place where the straight people accept guys kiss guys and they can freely stand at the bar kissing!

I'm not judging all. Most are ok, but there are quite a few that turn straight people or people who are straight acting/looking away.


Yet if a 'straight club' did this for being too Gay, it would be a form of homophobia? How come it's never seen as heterophobia when the other way around? That's what I want to know.

[Locke.]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Probably chavs

Who? The people trying to get in? Well no We tried to get in and they told us "you can't come in because you aren't gay". Didn't particularly want to go in there anyway, was just following the crowd.

[Fom]

Originally posted by David

Pink in Liverpool City Centre.

Were they dressed accordingly and acting sober? You dont get turned away just because of your sexuality no one cares, but if your dressed in trackies it is understandable why they get turned away. Even if they were wearing trainers they can get turned away.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by David

Who? The people trying to get in? Well no We tried to get in and they told us "you can't come in because you aren't gay". Didn't particularly want to go in there anyway, was just following the crowd.

Whatever you say David jus kiddin...well I bet you looked like a mob who wanted to take the piss or summat (not that you were)

[Locke.]

Nope, dressed properly. Jeans, shoes, shirt. No other club had a problem letting us in.

[NettoSuperstar!]

I've been to many gay clubs and never been asked what my sexuality is...mind you that might be on account of my penchant for dungarees LoL (I joke)

[Fom]

Originally posted by ukturtle

I'm not judging all. Most are ok, but there are quite a few that turn straight people or people who are straight acting/looking away.


Yet if a 'straight club' did this for being too Gay, it would be a form of homophobia? How come it's never seen as heterophobia when the other way around? That's what I want to know.

Probably because being straight is accepted in the country, it is normal so people tend not to get offended by it. Do you get offended if someone insults you for being white? I don't, I aint arsed what people think of my colour... these places turning you away for being straight are places not worth going. Don't judge all gay bars/clubs because there are a few bad ones, it happens in loads of clubs, getting turned away for ages.

Chances are if you are straight and look like you have never seen a gay person before you will get turned away for safety, they don't need a group of young men pointing and laughing at the one place they feel accepted.