[loomy]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

It has NOT been accepted that Bea is a 'vile peice of work' speak for yourself - just some peoples' opinion - many like her!!!!!!!!!

'widely been accepted'. Please read correctly and contribute something interesting or don't bother

[loomy]

Freddie hasn't seen through her. He's blinded by lust. The other day he was going on about how much he wants to have sex with her. If you had to ask him who his favourite hm's were I bet she'd be up there in the top 3

[Marzy]

Originally posted by reallynow
He is always talking about groups and social dynamics FFS!

More than 500 posts in 5 days. No wonder i keep seeing your crappy posts in every single thread reagarding Freddie.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by loomy

'widely been accepted'. Please read correctly and contribute something interesting or don't bother

Dito!!!

[mangasatsuma]

Bea didn't actually slate Lisa about the living on benefits, but because Lisa has a negative, unimaginative and limited view of life and it's possibilities.

When Freddy laughed at/with Bea, describing her as "really good at putting people down", I think it showed that he can see through her to some extent.

[AbyC]

I'm still a major Freddy fan, but I'm liking Bea less and less!

[i]
he is a wankerrrrrr

[persephone]

Can't stand Halfwit

[Shasown]

Freddie is a sheep, so are the other housemates, and the shepherdess is Bea.

She has controlled them all bar Hira and Charlie over the last few days.

Hira and Charlie havent followed the pack simply because they are "too nice" they havent sussed Bea though

[geisha]

Originally posted by loomy
I'll admit I have never really warmed to Freddie but before this week I could have accepted if he won. I thought he was the 'best of a bad bunch', I repsected his eccentricity and I also thought he did have a good solid set of morals that he abided by. I believed him when he said he would stand up for what's right even when others were too afraid to do so.

I think it's widely been accepted that Bea is vile piece of work; imo worse than Lisa. Lisa is loud and angry but she's not really sneaky, she's not clever enough to be really manipulative. Freddie fans say that it's not his fault - he's being led on by Bea but he is responsible for his own actions. He has seen how she has behaved. He wasn't happy about the Noirin-Siavash situation but before Bea instigated the insane hatred towards Noirin and Issac he was prepared to be 'cool' with them. Instead he just followed on like a sheep, ganging up on Noirin. He agreed that she should be socially isolated. He agreed to go to the diary room knowing full well that the intentions behind it
weren't noble or a simple attempt to support Marcus. Kris was destroyed for being Lisa's sheepish henchman but for some reason Freddie remains favourite on this board. How he can stand by Bea is beyond me. What happened to standing up for what's right.

Lisenting to him agreeing with Bea as she slated Lisa for being on benefits was also bad. If he wants a career in politics he's going to have to be a lot more diplomatic and willing to see things from a different angle. It showed well and truly that people with a priviledged upbringing like Bea and Freddie can never truly understand what it's like to struggle for money and in that sense can never really help them. Freddie himself is 'scrounging' just off his parents because he was lucky enough to be born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

I cannot comprehend how Freddie and Siavash - who is a mumbling idiot who dumped and humiliated his gf on national tv all for some silly little fantasy he had planned out with Noirin - are favourites on this board.

Regarding Lisa, may I ask you that have you been watching from the very beginning of this series?