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Old 21-10-2009, 07:15 PM #1
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The fact that you ask that question, proves that you exist.
It really does not. How do you know I even asked it in the first place? Might be all in your mind...
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It really does not. How do you know I even asked it in the first place? Might be all in your mind...

LEt me give you a quote from Descates, I have studied his relativity theory, and its pretty convincing. YOu have to read it very carefully, I remember, it took me a while to even undertand what he was talking about:


"But I have convinced myself that there is absolutely nothing in the world, no sky, no earth, no minds, no bodies. Does it now follow that I too do not exist? No. If I convinced myself of something [or thought anything at all] then I certainly existed. But there is a deceiver of supreme power and cunning who is deliberately and constantly deceiving me. In that case I too undoubtedly exist, if he is deceiving me; and let him deceive me as much as he can, he will never bring it about that I am nothing so long as I think that I am something. So, after considering everything very thoroughly, I must finally conclude that the proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind. "
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LEt me give you a quote from Descates, I have studied his relativity theory, and its pretty convincing. YOu have to read it very carefully, I remember, it took me a while to even undertand what he was talking about:


"But I have convinced myself that there is absolutely nothing in the world, no sky, no earth, no minds, no bodies. Does it now follow that I too do not exist? No. If I convinced myself of something [or thought anything at all] then I certainly existed. But there is a deceiver of supreme power and cunning who is deliberately and constantly deceiving me. In that case I too undoubtedly exist, if he is deceiving me; and let him deceive me as much as he can, he will never bring it about that I am nothing so long as I think that I am something. So, after considering everything very thoroughly, I must finally conclude that the proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind. "
If I've understood it right... that only proves to me that I exist. It doesn't prove to me that you and everything else exists.
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If I've understood it right... that only proves to me that I exist. It doesn't prove to me that you and everything else exists.

Thats actually a good point.....
Let me think about it.
Actually, yeah, that is all it proves. I dont think Descartes ever claimed otherwise, so youre right.
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