[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Originally Posted by setanta

I'm just joking around. But yeah, that's rock and if you have to accept that while they're on stage anything can happen.

Is it rock anymore though, it would have been years ago, but now when they are often recorded and sold as dvds or pirated, they are putting on a show, its more about the show than rock now.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Appearance_Of_A_Junky

Is it rock anymore though, it would have been years ago, but now when they are often recorded and sold as dvds or pirated, they are putting on a show, its more about the show than rock now.

Yep, it's art apparently and who am I to argue with them for being creative? If I don't like it I don't have to attend, but I still don't think it means that she's a freak. In that case you might as well throw the majority of musical artists in here.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Originally Posted by setanta

Yep, it's art apparently and who am I to argue with them for being creative? If I don't like it I don't have to attend, but I still don't think it means that she's a freak. In that case you might as well throw the majority of musical artists in here.

Yes indeed and why not? Aren't most of them?

Amy Winehouse, Marilyn Manson, Ben Weasel, Miley Cyrus, David Bowie, Freddy Mercury, Britney Spears, Axel Rose,

They are all kinda freaks.

You seem to think that freak is a negative word - why is that? Many people have called me a freak in my life, I take it as a compliment. Should we all conform?

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Appearance_Of_A_Junky

Yes indeed and why not? Aren't most of them?

Amy Winehouse, Marilyn Manson, Ben Weasel, Miley Cyrus, David Bowie, Freddy Mercury, Britney Spears, Axel Rose,

They are all kinda freaks.

You seem to think that freak is a negative word - why is that? Many people have called me a freak in my life, I take it as a compliment. Should we all conform?

That's true, but I think people have different opinions as to the meaning of the word freak and therein lies the problem for me. The vast majority of people would use it in a different way to you or I - it's form of discrimination based on attitudes that don't conform to the norm, particularly when we're talking about art and self expression.

There's plenty of freaks to highlight in here for their actions in the real world, rather than how they behave for the sake of their art.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Originally Posted by setanta

That's true, but I think people have different opinions as to the meaning of the word freak and therein lies the problem for me. The vast majority of people would use it in a different way to you or I - it's form of discrimination based on attitudes that don't conform to the norm, particularly when we're talking about art and self expression.

There's plenty of freaks to highlight in here for their actions in the real world, rather than how they behave for the sake of their art.

But her art is music, not stripping.

I would call a stripper a freak if instead of a lap dance I paid £30 for I got a song.

And do you really think that if she saw 30stone call her a freak she'd care, she would just look at him and think the same, same for me and my stick Mr Hessinghamlyshire.

We are all freaks to someone. If we're lucky, its someone we love.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Appearance_Of_A_Junky

But her art is music, not stripping.

I would call a stripper a freak if instead of a lap dance I paid £30 for I got a song.

And do you really think that if she saw 30stone call her a freak she'd care, she would just look at him and think the same, same for me and my stick Mr Hessinghamlyshire.

We are all freaks to someone. If we're lucky, its someone we love.

I doubt she strips all the time and yes, it's part of her art. I suppose that she feels she's breaking down barriers when she's being so provocative. Honestly don't think she should be judged on her art in this fashion...... if you don't want to see it you don't have to pay for a ticket. In my opinion it's the people who dress like their heroes in everyday situations who deserve the freak title.

[Appearance_Of_A_Junky]

Originally Posted by setanta

I doubt she strips all the time and yes, it's part of her art. I suppose that she feels she's breaking down barriers when she's being so provocative. Honestly don't think she should be judged on her art in this fashion...... if you don't want to see it you don't have to pay for a ticket. In my opinion it's the people who dress like their heroes in everyday situations who deserve the freak title.

Such as?