[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

But at the end of the day, Twilight's young and I don't think I've ever seen a nasty insult from her compared to the hate she gets from older and supposedly wiser people who should know better it's shocking at times. Her insults are harmless playground stuff at best but soem of the stuff she gets back is vile.

As for the BH thing I'm all for a compromise, There's no reason why we can't sort something out so that both parties are happy.

Pretty much what I think of that situation.
But for their thread, there shouldnt be any compromise, if you start closing threads for stupid reasons like this, it will start a trend. So leave them alone, I dont see why some of the people would even want to post in there.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by lili

If you don't take it seriously, why are you all getting your knickers in a twist about it being removed?

Because it's a bit of fun for the people who enjoy it, we don't want it removed. It will be worst afterwards, plenty of threads will emerge and you know it will happen.

[lily.]

New people want to post in there because they think they won't be accepted otherwise.

That's not great is it.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Throwing insults at us like Steph and Twilight are sometimes doing. We don't like that so we ask them to leave to keep the peace. How is that unfair ?

Well seeing as you called them attention seeking *****s last night, I think your fair game, sorry.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I think that is your problem - the fact that I DO get it! I do agree, however, that there is never any need for verbal abuse. But I am all for healthy debate, and not attempting to suffocate opposing views!

No you don't at all but I had the debate with you earlier on, no need to repeat it once again.

[lily.]

You lost the debate with her already Remy.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by setanta

Well seeing as you called them attention seeking *****s last night, I think your fair game, sorry.

I probably shouldn't have but it's the name I gave to their clique and it's rather minor to what they told us. But I'm clear with Steph and Twilight now, so no need to stir thing up.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by lili

People have been attempting to brush this thread under the carpet since it began WOMBAI.

That comes as no surprise! And that is why us stronger, more forceful members have to question such double standards - despite the many attempts to dismiss and undermine our opinions!

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by lili

You lost the debate with her already Remy.

I didn't because I provided proofs and facts while she didn't. My points are valid and well made. There is no winner in a debate honestly, we'll never get along on this matter.

[lily.]

You state your opinion as though it is evidence and fact Remy, when in fact it is only an opinion. That's your downfall in debate.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Yes she is young but it should not be the main reason. She likes insulting people for free and randomly. It's fun for her so there is no way the people who got attacked will let that happen again. It's only fair.

And I can't see where this is all coming out all of a sudden, we were fine before. Nothing must be changed. People who aren't happy with the BH don't post in here and that's all. I'm not happy with The Den but I'm doing a petition against it nor I post in here.

If I'm honest though I've seen her get abuse for no reason from some people when the worst she gives out is 'fail'. I'm more deserving of hate as I can be extremely aggressive and dish out the insults at times but I don't get the Twilight hate when she's virtually harmless.

Again it's nothing against the brotherhood, I really like most members and I know it's just not the BH who attacks her. It's just something that irks me as she gets a lot of hate but not many people standing up for her.

[alc09]

Originally Posted by lili

Yet when Alc does it, you all laugh and encourage him?

You sent me a private message last week saying my posts 'are epic'?!

[lily.]

I sent you a PM last week regarding a certain posts you made which were epic. I don't goad you on when you are being unfunny.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If I'm honest though I've seen her get abuse for no reason from some people when the worst she gives out is 'fail'. I'm more deserving of hate as I can be extremely aggressive and dish out the insults at times but I don't get the Twilight hate when she's virtually harmless.

Again it's nothing against the brotherhood, I really like most members and I know it's just not the BH who attacks her. It's just something that irks me as she gets a lot of hate but not many people standing up for her.

I get the same feeling. Not only that, but they dont even realise how ridiculous they look and sound, throwing insults at her, or even responding to her childish posts.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

I probably shouldn't have but it's the name I gave to their clique and it's rather minor to what they told us. But I'm clear with Steph and Twilight now, so no need to stir thing up.

I'm not stirring at all here; just defending the girls and trying to eliminate the self righteous air that you fellas seem to carry along with you.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by lili

You state your opinion as though it is evidence and fact Remy, when in fact it is only an opinion. That's your downfall in debate.

It's not an opinion, it's a fact once for all. Ask the people who are not members and post in our thread. Is Harry having the same interested as us ? No yet he posts in here and posts in The Den. Same thing with Ross etc...
We never did prevent anyone from entering and talking to us. We have had plenty of new people talking when BB10 started so I'm not buying the 'new members are scared' excuse.

So now, everyone knows they can discuss with us as long as there is no insult. Is that clear ?

I will be honest that in the very first few minutes i attempted to join i was treated poorly, but that has changed. I believe for new members like me it's a very good place to get to know members and chat with freedom. I believe abolishing it will do no good for the forum.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by setanta

I'm not stirring at all here; just defending the girls and trying to eliminate the self righteous air that you fellas seem to carry along with you.

We are not carrying anything, people assume we are and give us bad reputation. As for the 'anti-girls thing', we have had many girls talking to us, just ask them and you'll see.

[lily.]

So, if a new member comes along and tries to join and gets treated the same way as you,,, but doesn't like it, and doesn't stick around.. do you think that is good for the forum?

[alc09]

Come on, even Patrick is welcome in that thread, he posts some crap elsewhere but he acts alright in the BH and is actually a very decent lad.

Unlike Twilight and Steph, he comes in and posts decently and doesn't spout the amount of crap those two do, hence why they are given abuse.

[Billy]

(when did Remy become an ambassador for BH?)

[andyman]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

That comes as no surprise! And that is why us stronger, more forceful members have to question such double standards - despite the many attempts to dismiss and undermine our opinions!

"us stronger, more forceful members"

So you're above other forum members?

BH is just a thread same as the Den and Take That thread..

Members can post where they like, freedom of the forum..

[lily.]

Originally Posted by setanta

I'm not stirring at all here; just defending the girls and trying to eliminate the self righteous air that you fellas seem to carry along with you.

THIS is the problem. And you are not alone in thinking that.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Billy

(when did Remy become an ambassador for BH?)

Self-appointed it seems..

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If I'm honest though I've seen her get abuse for no reason from some people when the worst she gives out is 'fail'. I'm more deserving of hate as I can be extremely aggressive and dish out the insults at times but I don't get the Twilight hate when she's virtually harmless.

Again it's nothing against the brotherhood, I really like most members and I know it's just not the BH who attacks her. It's just something that irks me as she gets a lot of hate but not many people standing up for her.

I'm not responsible for what the others are doing but Twilight knows when she crossed the line and knows what to expect in return. I hope it will teach her to be nicer to people.
And furthermore, Twilight sometimes post in the thread and is being nice and collected.
As for the support she doesn't get, people know who she is, she made a bad name for herself and I'm sorry for her. I feel sorry for this girl, really.