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Originally Posted by squallsquall

Also, please explain why merging several disciplines makes it random. It's like saying BJJ would be more skill dependent if you split it into different disciplines each for chokes, arm locks, and so on...

It is self-evident,
but,
to explain it I might say that Archery is a very cool and accurate shooting sport.
Rifle marksman require great skills too.. its impressive.
Cannon fire is really great and actually quite a skill.
Spear throwing is 'real ballistics' or maybe good olden days rock throwing. That is essentially 'real shooting' in its basic form,
and,
Target shooting with pistols is quite the art.

So...
...Why wouldnt it be the 'Ultimate Ballistics Championship' if we loaded ALL those into a giant gun and shot at each other???
Huh?
Tell me.. why wouldn't that make it all the more skilled when you combine ALL the skills together?

Years ago I correctly predicted it will be next to impossible to maintain any sort of ongoing consistent champions.
YES... you get 10 guys who will be faster, stronger and bigger and float to the top,
but,
They will, eventually, all end up defeating one and other in what 'would be' (given enough fights) just 50-50,
and,
Champions will change ever other fight.

Well that happens.
Why?
Because the results are basically down to 'happenstance' (assuming both guy are basically equally athletic).

I just try not to make a face whenever someone 'wows' because the champ got knocked out cold in one shot,
then,
the next time another guy one-punched that champ,
who,
was 'one-punched' in the next championship.
EXACTLY!
EXACTLY RIGHT!

But you know who MIGHT consistently win?
The gigantic super-muscled wrestler Brock Lesnar guy.
This proves out my point though. It shows you that all you really need is to be much larger and stronger and more powerful and not much else will matter.

The reason I like boxing is not because I just 'picked a team to defend' but because it earns it.
It requires finer skills yes but more importantly is that it has REMOVED as many of the things that lead to 'happenstance' wins as possible.
'Lucky punches' can happen yes... but they have removed as many opportunities as possible.
So that actually separates out the 'better man' for good reasons and over time it actually means something that Mayweather is xx wins and zero losses and is the champ.

In this UFC... take their top 10 in a division and have them fight 100 times and they ALL end up with 50-50 records.
because its mostly 'happenstance'.

besides that - what do I see in the 'Top 100 UFC moments'?
- The segments where they 'boxed' for minutes at a time.
Ok.
Well compare that top UFC 'action minute' and you have what?
Crappy boxing.
At best 'good amateur boxing'.

So why wouldn't I just watch boxing!