[InOne]

Originally Posted by Freakmebaby_ahh..yh!

before 9/11, people didnt have the idea of associating terrorism with muslims as it had never happened. since 9/11 and 7/7 people are now scared of them.

what about the IRA ? they've committed many terrorist crimes, yet when an irishman boards a plane no 1 gets scared etc.

some religious muslims dont dress in western fashion, and yes they look odd compared 2 every1 else, people shouldnt be narrow minded and judge on ones appearance.

any one can be a terrorist is what im trying to say.

Think that is a race issue tbh.

[andyman]

Off topic but I do enjoy watching BBC4.. Intresting programs like how does a universe that starts off as dust end up with intelligent life.. On now!

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Freakmebaby_ahh..yh!

before 9/11, people didnt have the idea of associating terrorism with muslims

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Wo...Center_bombing

But I do agree with the rest of what you said.

[andyman]

Well it was.. It might be repeted at a later date.

Next on BBC4.. Time. Part 2 of 4.

Series in which Michio Kaku goes on an exploration of the world in search of time. This edition looks at the human life span and scientific research into extending it.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Freakmebaby_ahh..yh!

that is disgusting.

I wasn't being serious I hope you get that lol

[Sticks]

Let's correct a few misconceptions here

1. Islamic fundamentalists are different from the IRA. The IRA did not have a pholosophy that was twisted by others to produce suicide bombers. IRA members wanted to get out alive.
2. The Jihadi is taught that what he is doing is striking at the enemy and that any good muslim who dies fighting for Allah will enter paradise with a certain number of virgins
3. Jihad is just meant to be a struggle - A good muslim's jihad may be his struggle to quit smoking - the term Jihad has been hijacked and missused

Now on to things you do not hear.

When muslims move into an area, like say the West End of Newcastle near where I live, crime goes down. I'll say that again, crime goes down.

Some of them are the most devoted and hard working people I have come across.

Not all of them are exxtremists, in fact on the night of 9/11 the muslim who runs the local chippy was appauled at what had been done in the name of Islam.

Halal cooking really tasty and I quite like it*

* Before you talk about slaughtering techniques we in the west are not that much better

[Vicky.]

Indeed sticks, the majority are lovely. However, we had one muslim man in our bar the other day, mortal drunk shouting on about how he agreed with 9/11 etc.

Needless to say, one of the regulars kicked the sh** out of him. Deserved, I'd say, harsh as that sounds.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Let's correct a few misconceptions here

1. Islamic fundamentalists are different from the IRA. The IRA did not have a pholosophy that was twisted by others to produce suicide bombers. IRA members wanted to get out alive.
2. The Jihadi is taught that what he is doing is striking at the enemy and that any good muslim who dies fighting for Allah will enter paradise with a certain number of virgins
3. Jihad is just meant to be a struggle - A good muslim's jihad may be his struggle to quit smoking - the term Jihad has been hijacked and missused

Now on to things you do not hear.

When muslims move into an area, like say the West End of Newcastle near where I live, crime goes down. I'll say that again, crime goes down.

Some of them are the most devoted and hard working people I have come across.

Not all of them are exxtremists, in fact on the night of 9/11 the muslim who runs the local chippy was appauled at what had been done in the name of Islam.

Halal cooking really tasty and I quite like it*

* Before you talk about slaughtering techniques we in the west are not that much better

A well thought out, and very informed post, based on what actually is true. I am glad it comes from a Christian as well. Much respect.

Yeah what you said is exactly true what Jihad means. And terorists are just brainwashed. I call them evil really, and everything they stand for is completely opposite to Islam. The killing of innocent people. They arent killing people who are oppressing them.
In the 9/11 bombing for example, what people dont know is obviously, a lot of muslim people die. How can you kill innocent people, but furthermore, innoent muslims, in the name of islam?

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

Indeed sticks, the majority are lovely. However, we had one muslim man in our bar the other day, mortal drunk shouting on about how he agreed with 9/11 etc.

Needless to say, one of the regulars kicked the sh** out of him. Deserved, I'd say, harsh as that sounds.

The fact that you said muslim/bar/drunk, should tell you everything. A true Muslim, wouldnt be drunk, or in a bar, in the first place.

[NettoSuperstar!]

No more than anyone else, I've known many muslims throughout my life, I know the likelihood of them being a terrorist is extremely low, people are people, most people just wanna get on with their lives, bring their families up, get good jobs etc etc, no different for muslims lol

[kcmik]

i feel sorry for the genuine muslims, who pray and obey as their way of life, have people thinking they're terrorists , because of the fake muslims. So so sad :-(

[andyman]

Any muslims on the forum?

[ange7]

Originally Posted by InOne

That is the sad thing, they are most likely well spoken, well dressed, intelligent young men who you'd probably get along with. Sad and scary at the same time.

Sad and scary at the same time
got it "InOne"

[ange7]

Originally Posted by VickyJ

Indeed sticks, the majority are lovely. However, we had one muslim man in our bar the other day, mortal drunk shouting on about how he agreed with 9/11 etc.

Needless to say, one of the regulars kicked the sh** out of him. Deserved, I'd say, harsh as that sounds.

nah he didn't... . You sound like you hate the violence of 9/11 and then give this guys beating a tick?

[ange7]

great post Sticks

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Let's correct a few misconceptions here

1. Islamic fundamentalists are different from the IRA. The IRA did not have a pholosophy that was twisted by others to produce suicide bombers. IRA members wanted to get out alive.
2. The Jihadi is taught that what he is doing is striking at the enemy and that any good muslim who dies fighting for Allah will enter paradise with a certain number of virgins
3. Jihad is just meant to be a struggle - A good muslim's jihad may be his struggle to quit smoking - the term Jihad has been hijacked and missused

Now on to things you do not hear.

When muslims move into an area, like say the West End of Newcastle near where I live, crime goes down. I'll say that again, crime goes down.

Some of them are the most devoted and hard working people I have come across.

Not all of them are exxtremists, in fact on the night of 9/11 the muslim who runs the local chippy was appauled at what had been done in the name of Islam.

Halal cooking really tasty and I quite like it*

* Before you talk about slaughtering techniques we in the west are not that much better

That is why they need PR in the UK and the USA. They have no spokesperson who can speak out against terrorism, correct stereotypes and talk up Muslims in the UK.


The vacuum is filled in a negative way and will continue to be so.

[spitfire]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Islamic fundamentalists are different from the IRA. The IRA did not have a pholosophy that was twisted by others to produce suicide bombers.

Instead they forced innocent people to become suicide bombers.

Originally Posted by Sticks

IRA members wanted to get out alive.

Shame about poor old Thomas Begley.

[MarkWaldorf]

It depends on the situation. If I saw a stereotypical one in the street (long beard, clothing etc) then no I wouldn't be, but if I was on a tube/bus I can't say I wouldn't be a little bit suspicious.

But I agree with Sticks. Some muslims are the nicest people I know. I have a friend who's a muslim and I'm quite close with his family and they're extremely welcoming of me and what I am. And he's pretty appalled that some of the people who commit these crimes are from the same religion as him and worship the same God.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Let's correct a few misconceptions here

1. Islamic fundamentalists are different from the IRA. The IRA did not have a pholosophy that was twisted by others to produce suicide bombers. IRA members wanted to get out alive.
2. The Jihadi is taught that what he is doing is striking at the enemy and that any good muslim who dies fighting for Allah will enter paradise with a certain number of virgins
3. Jihad is just meant to be a struggle - A good muslim's jihad may be his struggle to quit smoking - the term Jihad has been hijacked and missused

Now on to things you do not hear.

When muslims move into an area, like say the West End of Newcastle near where I live, crime goes down. I'll say that again, crime goes down.

Some of them are the most devoted and hard working people I have come across.

Not all of them are exxtremists, in fact on the night of 9/11 the muslim who runs the local chippy was appauled at what had been done in the name of Islam.

Halal cooking really tasty and I quite like it*

* Before you talk about slaughtering techniques we in the west are not that much better

*applauds*

I agree completely, I can't comment on the IRA stuff though as I don't really know much about it but everything else I can say is spot on.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Sticks

* Before you talk about slaughtering techniques we in the west are not that much better

What do you mean by that?