[Shasown]

Originally Posted by setanta

You refuse to listen to a word I've said and continue to support Terry here.

This isn't just a personal matter by the way - Terry has compromised his position in the England set up by mixing his private and professional life here, which throws into question his ability to lead a team out as captain when he's been shafting the mother of one of his teammates children. Is it so difficult for you to understand the kind of ramifications that could have at the World Cup?

The squad training facility and hotel (Royal Bafokeng Sports Campus) where the team will be staying is for the team only.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/ar...th-Africa.html

WAGs will be staying elsewhere. Fabio has banned them from the squad hotel and will only allow the players to meet up with them at certain times during the stay.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...d-success.html

So Terry wont really be able to nip along the corridor to nail someone else's missus while they are in the shower.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Shasown

The squad training facility and hotel (Royal Bafokeng Sports Campus) where the team will be staying is for the team only.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/ar...th-Africa.html

WAGs will be staying elsewhere. Fabio has banned them from the squad hotel and will only allow the players to meet up with them at certain times during the stay.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...d-success.html

So Terry wont really be able to nip along the corridor to nail someone else's missus while they are in the shower.

Yep, well if the Wags are elsewhere the rest of the players will defo want Terry in the squad so they can keep an eye on him.

You don't get it, do you? How damaging this could be to group morale. That's what I'm talking about when I mention the repercussions that indiscretions like this could have on the whole England set up, especially since Terry holds the captains armband.

[arista]

"especially since Terry holds the captains armband. "

His Non English Boss
appears to back him , though.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by arista

"especially since Terry holds the captains armband. "

His Non English Boss
appears to back him , though.

That remains to be seen Arista. Apparently we'll get an announcement on Friday.

[arista]

Originally Posted by setanta

That remains to be seen Arista. Apparently we'll get an announcement on Friday.

Yes the Final word.

I am sure it will be leaked before.

[arista]

Meanwhile his Wife Toni is in Dubai.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ast-Dubai.html

[Angus]

Originally Posted by arista

"especially since Terry holds the captains armband. "

His Non English Boss
appears to back him , though.

Unfortunately, cultural differences could play in JT's favour - after all in Italy its practically compulsory to have extra marital affairs, look at Berlusconi who holds the office of Prime Minister! Let's see which of Capello's two religions - Football or Catholicism - take precedence in informing his decision. Is he a man of principle or not?

[Alf]

sky sports latest news say

john terry will not resign as england captain

[Ramsay]

Poor Wayne Bridge not even first choice with his wife

[arista]

Originally Posted by wannashag

sky sports latest news say

john terry will not resign as england captain

Yes SkyNews
CNN and the
Bloated BBC News

can all confirm he is staying in his job for now.


Well before Friday.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by setanta

You refuse to listen to a word I've said and continue to support Terry here.

This isn't just a personal matter by the way - Terry has compromised his position in the England set up by mixing his private and professional life here, which throws into question his ability to lead a team out as captain when he's been shafting the mother of one of his teammates children. Is it so difficult for you to understand the kind of ramifications that could have at the World Cup?

This is, above all else, a situation where the personal indiscretions of the captain of the English football team have filtered into his professional career and it's foolish to assume that Capello can just forget about it and it'll all be just hunky dory.

In the professional world a company boss can be legally sacked for such actions, once a review has been carried out and the damages have been ascertained, which could be great considering the position Terry holds within the England set up. He's a senior player who should lead by example, just like any boss or manager in any other professional field.

And I'd like to say that I never said he should be sacked: I said that I would consider sacking him over it. Totally different dude.

Not really though - usually it goes away - as will this. Baying for blood will get us no where.

Even his wife, as I knew ashe would, is considering taking him back as reported.

We do not know the ins and outs. We know something happened. We know there is some sort of scandals but timescales, actual facts we do not know and will not know unless an interview is given so we are all guessing and the papers are loving it - just like the loved the Tiger Woods scandal. Baying for blood, calling for him to be sacked. British public are a joke. Bully this and PC brigade that! It's a private matter, Terry and Bridges will sort it out I am sure and will have to get on with their job as playing for England and Terry will maintain his role as being a good captain!

No need for him to be sacked. He has been an idiot if this is all true, I am sure he will lose enough!!

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes SkyNews
CNN and the
Bloated BBC News

can all confirm he is staying in his job for now.


Well before Friday.

I genuinely think the England team would want him as captain regardless of personal feelnigs. It has been reported that Lampard / Rooney and Gerrard would be reluctant to take th eplace of him. It's reported that FA will support him - it's a major scandal, he has been a silly boy!

[setanta]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

Not really though - usually it goes away - as will this. Baying for blood will get us no where.

Even his wife, as I knew ashe would, is considering taking him back as reported.

We do not know the ins and outs. We know something happened. We know there is some sort of scandals but timescales, actual facts we do not know and will not know unless an interview is given so we are all guessing and the papers are loving it - just like the loved the Tiger Woods scandal. Baying for blood, calling for him to be sacked. British public are a joke. Bully this and PC brigade that! It's a private matter, Terry and Bridges will sort it out I am sure and will have to get on with their job as playing for England and Terry will maintain his role as being a good captain!

No need for him to be sacked. He has been an idiot if this is all true, I am sure he will lose enough!!

When it's a highly placed individual within a cooperation who has had an indiscretion that could have a negative effect on company morale and work then yes, it is ground for a dismissal. Capello will treat it very professionally and wont make a decision until he's taken account of everyone's feelings and the general mood within camp. Ultimately his choice will be based on what allows his team to continue to run as smoothly as possible - that's all he's interested in.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by setanta

When it's a highly placed individual within a cooperation who has had an indiscretion that could have a negative effect on company morale and work then yes, it is ground for a dismissal. Capello will treat it very professionally and wont make a decision until he's taken account of everyone's feelings and the general mood within camp. Ultimately his choice will be based on what allows his team to continue to run as smoothly as possible - that's all he's interested in.

Well from experience, when that "highly placed individual" is a key factor in the organisation, then it sometimes goes away..........

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by setanta

When it's a highly placed individual within a cooperation who has had an indiscretion that could have a negative effect on company morale and work then yes, it is ground for a dismissal. Capello will treat it very professionally and wont make a decision until he's taken account of everyone's feelings and the general mood within camp. Ultimately his choice will be based on what allows his team to continue to run as smoothly as possible - that's all he's interested in.

Thing that gets is me how come no one is baying for Prince Charles' head on a stick? He got married to that Diane woman and was still giving the odd royal portion to his old pal Camilla, surely if you think John Terry is a bit naughty for doing what it is he is alleged to have done, then Charlie boy is really naughty for doing what he actually did do, shouldnt you be calling consistantly for Charles to be taken out of the line of succession.

Lets face it, the UK is simply a large cooperation(eh?) isnt it? And seeing him get away with it, will certainly have a negative effect on anyone not getting away with it.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Thing that gets is me how come no one is baying for Prince Charles' head on a stick? He got married to that Diane woman and was still giving the odd royal portion to his old pal Camilla, surely if you think John Terry is a bit naughty for doing what it is he is alleged to have done, then Charlie boy is really naughty for doing what he actually did do, shouldnt you be calling consistantly for Charles to be taken out of the line of succession.

Lets face it, the UK is simply a large cooperation(eh?) isnt it? And seeing him get away with it, will certainly have a negative effect on anyone not getting away with it.

If I recall correctly, there was and is ongoing debate about this very point. I doubt Charles will ever suceed to the throne, that misfortune will probably befall his son. There are many instances where people should step down from high office, Gordon Brown being a case in point, but insist on clinging on for dear life.

Your argument is a typical deflection of blame tactic used by wrongdoers when caught in the act. If you want to start a thread on Charles' right to succeed, be my guest, but this is a post about TERRY who, like Brown, clings to his status of Captain like a limpet, not least because it brings him in Ł500,000 in sponsorship deals alone which would vanish into thin air if he were to lose the captaincy.

Do you recall JT's statements when he was made Captain? He was deeply honoured to hold such a prestigious position in football, and was determined to live up to the responsibilities that went with it. ALL footballers are well aware that they are looked up to by kids who aspire to be like them, so YES their behaviour DOES matter, and that of the CAPTAIN should be impeccable. In particular his complete betrayal of a best friend and team mate is pretty despicable ,was hardly conducive to team relations and harmony,and was always going to cause frictions and upset within the team. What was he thinking?

[setanta]

I'm Irish so the monarchy doesn't mean much to me at all and I don't really see the relevence it has to this discussion.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by setanta

I'm Irish so the monarchy doesn't mean much to me at all and I don't really see the relevence it has to this discussion.

But the captainacy of the England World Cup Squad does? Go figure.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Shasown

But the captainacy of the England World Cup Squad does? Go figure.

He's had to work for that honour and is basically an elected respresentative. He wasn't born a captain.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by setanta

He's had to work for that honour and is basically an elected respresentative. He wasn't born a captain.

So basically what you are saying is he should be removed from his position as captain and possibly thrown out of the World Cup Squad because of allegations that have appeared in newspapers. Regardless of the real truth behind the allegations

I think the correct term is Trial by Tabloid. Thank goodness the legal system actually relies on evidential proof before deciding guilt.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Shasown

So basically what you are saying is he should be removed from his position as captain and possibly thrown out of the World Cup Squad because of allegations that have appeared in newspapers. Regardless of the real truth behind the allegations

I think the correct term is Trial by Tabloid. Thank goodness the legal system actually relies on evidential proof before deciding guilt.

Not at all. As I've stated before, Capello will take his time to review and assess the damage that these stories have had on the morale of his team, taking time to converse with all parties involved. His only concern is that of the team and how he can continue to have it functioning effectively. If that means Terry has to go, he has to go. Sure we'll see tomorrow.

[rapunza1977]

I see the tabloids now are making up other tosh about him renting his box out at wembley for 4 grand! They really are baying for blood on this one. A joke - trial by media indeed!!

[arista]

SkyNews confirms Terry is no longer in the England Captain Job.

So Sacked he is.

Shocker .

[NettoSuperstar!]

Good call!... hows he going to a lead a team of men who dont trust or respect him anymore?

He'll have to earn that all back

[arista]

Originally Posted by NettoSuperstar!

Good call!... hows he going to a lead a team of men who dont trust or respect him anymore?

He'll have to earn that all back

But many say he must stay in that Job.

Andy on here will be Shocked.